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Coma: Уж наверняка, кто-то из вас его любит, кто-то нет, но думаю относиться к творчеству Боуи равнодушно почти невозможно=). Повлиял на многих и продолжает это делать. Спасибо ему, этому космическому гуру.
Ziggy Pop: 20 сентября выходит переиздание альбома "Station To Station" (1976), на 3-ёх дисках: первый диск - альбом, 2 и 3 - запись "живого" концерта - Live Nassau Coliseum '76 The Special Edition of Station To Station (above) is a CD sized box with lift off lid which contains the following. ~ CD 1: 2010 transfer of Station To Station from the original stereo analogue master in mini replica sleeve 1. Station To Station (10.11) 2. Golden Years (4.02) 3. Word On A Wing (6.01) 4. TVC15 (5.31) 5. Stay (6.12) 6. Wild Is The Wind (6.02) ~ CDs 2 & 3: Live Nassau Coliseum '76 (Recorded live at the Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY, USA. March 23rd, 1976) in gatefold CD wallet 1. Station To Station (11.53) 2. Suffragette City (3.31) 3. Fame (4.02) 4. Word On A Wing (6.06) 5. Stay (7.25) 6. Waiting For The Man (6.20) 7. Queen Bitch (3.12) Nassau Coliseum concert continued... 1. Life On Mars? (2.13) 2. Five Years (5.03) 3. Panic In Detroit (6.03) 4. Changes (4.11) 5. TVC15 (4.58) 6. Diamond Dogs (6.38) 7. Rebel Rebel (4.07) 8. The Jean Genie (7.28) ~ 16-page booklet with sleevenotes by Cameron Crowe and chronology by Kevin Cann ~ Three period photocards of Bowie in various settings кроме того, выходит делюкс-издание: 5 дисков + dvd + винил: The Deluxe Edition of Station To Station (above) is an album sized box with lift off lid housed in a foam-packed box, 325 x 325 x 50mm and contains the following... ~ CD 1: 2010 transfer of Station To Station from the original stereo analogue master ~ CD 2: Station To Station 1985 CD master ~ CD 3: Station To Station single edits five track EP containing Golden Years, TVC15, Stay, Word On A Wing and Station To Station ~ CDs 4 & 5: Live Nassau Coliseum '76 ~ DVD containing the following... Station To Station (original analogue master, 96kHz/24bit LPCM stereo) Station To Station (new Harry Maslin 5.1 surround sound mix in DTS 96/24 and Dolby Digital) Station To Station (original analogue master, LPCM stereo) Station To Station (new Harry Maslin stereo mix, 48kHz/24bit LPCM stereo) ~ 12" heavyweight vinyl of Station To Station from the original stereo analogue master in replica sleeve ~ 2 x 12" heavyweight vinyl of Live Nassau Coliseum '76 in gatefold sleeve Aside from all of this marvellous audio content, here's what else you get in the Deluxe Edition box... 24-page booklet with sleevenotes by Cameron Crowe and chronology by Kevin Cann and also including... ~ Previously unpublished Steve Shapiro photo ~ Geoff MacCormack photos ~ Andrew Kent live Nassau photos
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: переиздание альбома "Station To Station" (1976) о, не знала.. неплохо, буду ждать=)
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: о, не знала.. да я сам тока вот узнал, дай, думаю зайду на официал миста Боуи сайт, не был там пару лет наверное, а вот в новостях такое=) ну нормально, пускай выходит, двойной Зигги у меня есть, двойной Аладдин Сэйн тоже, Даймонд Догз двойной был, но я его подарил ещё года 3 назад, короче Station To Station точно возьму, потому как диска у меня нет, т.е. он был, но в 2000 году у меня его взяли послушать и не вернули, на пару с диском The Man Who Sold The World, вот суки ведь. С тех пор и не покупал больше. Правда делюкс это слишком круто, обойдусь обычным диском;)
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: двойной Зигги у меня есть, двойной Аладдин Сэйн тоже, Даймонд Догз двойной был Зигги в смысле альбом или концертник? у меня есть Ziggy Stardust - The Motion Picture обожаю такие переиздания, просто вах=), толстые книжки, оформление, да и звучит конечно неплохо=) а Берлинские же не переиздавались? Ziggy Pop пишет: у меня его взяли послушать и не вернули
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: Зигги в смысле альбом или концертник? альбом, который 25-th Anniversary Edition, там на втором диске точно помню мрачную песню "In the port of Amsterdam..." Coma пишет: Ziggy Stardust - The Motion Picture у меня есть на dvd, правда пиратский=) оригинальный есть у карифана, я его даже пощупал как-то в смысле диск, а не приятеля короче картон хороший там=)) Coma пишет: Берлинские же не переиздавались? х.з. по какому принципу осуществляется переиздание, как бы всё по хронологии вроде: - ziggy - aladdin sane - dogs - station хотя Young Americans не было двойного (между Догз и Стэйшэн), равно как и первых трёх альбомов, странно короче. на Берлинские переиздания надеюсь, Low и Heroes особенно, ну Lodger тоже ничего, правда я его гораздо реже слушаю, чем те два. Hunky Dory тоже не вернули, и был ещё ...hours (1999) лимитированный (с голографической обложкой), тоже "ушёл"... Сейчас такого в продаже вроде нет уже. Да и ладно...))
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: альбом, который 25-th Anniversary Edition, у меня его пока нет, когда заказывала это чудо у одного знакомого, когда он уезжал в европу, получила как раз вот это: =)) действительно, какая разница, хе-х, зигги и там, и там... %) но, тоже неплохо Ziggy Pop пишет: помню мрачную песню "In the port of Amsterdam..." о, отличный кавер!! Ziggy Pop пишет: в смысле диск, а не приятеля короче картон хороший там=)) =))) у меня тоже пиратский.. надо б как-нибудь обновить, с таким-то картоном если =) Ziggy Pop пишет: на Берлинские переиздания надеюсь, Low и Heroes особенно вот, очень бы хотелось!!! даже не знаю, какой из них больше люблю.. у моего отца был винил Heroes, но это было очень давно и до меня дошли лишь обрывки буклета
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: даже не знаю, какой из них больше люблю.. оба!!;) интересно было бы послушать треки, не вошедшие в альбом, уверен, за кадром осталось много всего наверное, мне вообще период работы Боуи с Брайаном Ино кажется самым творчески-продуктивным в его карьере. Outside до сих пор покоя не даёт..
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: мне вообще период работы Боуи с Брайаном Ино кажется самым творчески-продуктивным в его карьере. Outside до сих пор покоя не даёт.. ага.. жаль, что продолжения не последовало.. могло бы быть ещё много интересного
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: могло бы быть ещё много интересного так оно и так есть, записали ведь около 20 часов музыки тогда в студии, могли бы и выпустить. Но...
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: могли бы и выпустить да уж.. что-то страшное встало на их пути)
Ziggy Pop: Coma ты слышала песни, не вошедшие в Аутсайд?
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: слышала песни, не вошедшие в Аутсайд? например? можно подробней? да вроде не особо, только те, что были на бонусном диске.. а где-то их можно найти?
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: только те, что были на бонусном диске.. те 2 би-сайда - это капля в море=) Coma пишет: например? например песня I'm With Name на 25 минут альбом Outside должен был быть эпосом, по типу оперы, индустриальной рок-оперы, насколько я правильно понял. Было записано много часов музыки, из которой позже бы скроен сам альбом. А за кадром осталось ещё много всякого интересного. Последний раз Боуи говорил в 2000 году по поводу продолжения Аутсайда: Rupert asks: What is the one thing your most looking forward to this year? David: Going back into the studio with Tony Visconti, number 2 would be rerecording lots of the didgy songs I wrote in the 60’s, 3 trying to piece together "2. Contamination" the follow up to Outisde. Live Chat with David Bowie, February 2nd, 2000 уже и название предварительное было даже, ха, а потом тишина
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: I'm With Name на 25 минут а, её знаю! =) вообще да, очень жаль, что заглохло всё... Outside -одна из (или самая) мощная ведь у Боуи..
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: её знаю! =) ну там и другие есть ещё, например Hello Leon, I Wanna Be, The First Time, слышала?
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: I Wanna Be, The First Time, слышала, а вот Hello Leon что-то не помню.. а это где-нибудь висит? =)
Ziggy Pop: да тут вот есть: http://rapidshare.com/files/33317092/outtakes.rar это бутлег "8 Outsiders" (ещё известен под названием "Something Really Fishy") David Bowie_1994_"Outside Outtakes" (avant/neo-psych) ================================== а вот по поводу песен того приода как раз: This is a bootleg release of some of the material which David Bowie intended to use in his 1.Outside album of 1995. Most of the tracks, however, were rejected by the recording labels as too uncommercial. They were indeed too weird by all means to make their way to pop-charts - and that is exactly why I think that the compilation of rejected tracks would be worth sharing here. In a nutshell, the Outtakes are about 40 minutes of rather adventurous cyber-punkish avant/psych improvisations intermingled with chants, recitations and few more or less conventional rock-style sung pieces. Although this effort does not fall straight into the category of progressive rock, I believe that some friends will appreciate it. On March 12 1994, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Reeves Gabrels, Mike Garson, Erdal Kizilcay and Sterling Cambell improvised a three-and-a-half-hour opus at the Mountain Studios in Montreux. This work formed the basis for the album 1. Outside. As Bowie put it: "One of the days we worked, we had a blindingly orgiastic session where it just didn't stop. Almost the entire genesis for this album is contained in those three-and-a-half hours, but it's nearly all dialogue and narrative description and wandering off into characters. I play out a character for maybe five minutes at a time. I mean, I developed an entire interior life of him whilst I was on the mic". The recordings were mixed at Westside Studios, London in the summer of 1994 and were intended for release as a double-album. Reeves Gabrels wrote on his website: "We hoped that it would have come out intact and un-compromised by financial/commercial pressures. It would have been a very serious musical statement (and maybe even pissed more people off than Tin Machine)". However, Bowie was unable to interest any record label to release 1. Outside in its original form because it was considered too uncommercial. Somehow 70 minutes from these mixed recordings have escaped. The CD features tracks that can hardly be called songs, as they do not follow conventional arrangements with verses and choruses. They are more like sketches, often with changes in tempo and structure within a single track. Included below is a run-down of the songs, which, because of their nature, have not been assigned titles unless these are known from other sources. Although only a few tracks ('I Am With Name' and 'Leon Takes Us Outside') ended up on 1. Outside, the story line set out throughout these tracks forms the backbone of the album. I Am With Name/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the CD opens with a familiar song, 'I Am With Name', but instead of the 1. Outside's four minutes, this version lasts well over 10 minutes. At 4'00" into the track, Bowie launches into a rap which repeats phrases such as "I won't keep it/It will hide me/He should take them/I won't tell it/She can't take it/He won't do this/He said tell it/She said spot this/He should do this/He should be there" and "It will kill that/He should hide me/I won't hide me/She can't be there/I won't tell it/They won't eat me." At 6'10" Nathan Adler is introduced in a segue which is nearly identical to the first segue from 1. Outside: "Old Touchschriek was the main name-server/Suspected of being a shoulder server or faint a hack/This old guy didn't know from shit about challenge response systems/He was way back in the age of cellular clones/We knew that Ramona A Stone was selling interest drugs, magic cookies [...] But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself/Let me take you back to when it all began." Next is the 'Ramona A Stone' segue that opens the song on 1. Outside, but again with slightly different lyrics. The segue and the song ends with the spoken "We'll creep together, you and I. We know who the small friends are. My, this is a crazy world. At this time, you could think of me as a 'syllannibal'. Someone who eats their own words". Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the second track, which lasts five minutes, starts as a ballad: "We creep together/We'll creep together, you and I/Just a trick of the two/From the slump male/A mumble slough unreal/How many drew the mark?/We'll creep together, you and I/Way back in the Laugh Hotel/I'll reel out the window/You die for diamonds/But you won't live for love." The song then changes tempo: "I am a rose/I am a face/I am a chrome/I am Ramona A Stone/We'll end in chrome/This is the chrome/This is the chrome, my friend, the chrome". Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the next outtake (6'45") starts off with a segue that possibly should be contributed to Leon Blank: "Then there was nothing left to do but to bring on the Nut Soldiers/Round out the packet sniffers". It features an introduction to The Leek Soldiers, after which the song continues with a repeated "Twist, fly, boy." At 2'35", Nathan Adler reappears with another excerpt from the first segue which is similar to 1. Outside: "Leon was up on that oh-so-heavenly party stage with a criss-cross machete/He could not wait for 12 o'clock midnight/He slashes around, cuts a zero in everything/I mean a zero in the fabric of time itself." This is followed by a short version of the rap as in the first track and the statement "Some day, the internet may become an information super-highway/Don't make me laugh!/A 19th century railroad that passes through the badlands of the Old West [...] Someday, the internet may become an information super-highway/Do not make me laugh!" At 5'50", the track ends with an excerpt from the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue. Leon Takes Us Outside/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): another familiar song, 'Leon Takes Us Outside', opens the fourth track (6'50"). At 2'00" into this track, Bowie starts exclaiming "Choir!" and after another change in tempo at 2'40" he sings "First time, that I felt your grace/A tear ran down my cheek/The first time that I saw the boil/Put it on the neck." Next enters Nathan Adler with another segue and the song closes with Bowie singing "Moving through the crowd/In Oxford Town/Moving on the sidewalks/Faces to the ground/Oxford Town". The Crome/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): this tracks (lasting 5'30") starts off with another Nathan Adler segue: "Someone once said that beauty is only deep-skin/While it has always been a stone in my flesh [...] You're better off without it/I mean, who eats the hard skin now, huh?/It ain't Ramona A Stone, that's for sure". This is followed by the detective singing "All the baby's left at home/And the sky is made of chrome/A breath-filled sky and it's made of chrome/There was a night of an OK riot [...] OK riot, with waving air [...] Yeah, I'd rather be chrome." We'll Creep Together/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'We'll Creep Together' is also familiar, albeit from the 1. Outside EPK only. However, here the song has two extra verses: "We'll find the small things, you and I/We'll just have small friends, you and I/We'll be small together/We'll be small together/We'll be small together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together, you and I/We'll end together/We'll end together/We'll end together, you and I". The synth line and drums of 'We'll Creep Together' continue into another Nathan Adler segue, which ends with the familiar "But wait, I'm getting ahead of myself". While the track proceeds as an instrumental, Bowie adds a line familiar from 'The Hearts Filthy Lesson': "Oh Ramona, can you hear me/Oh Ramona." Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the seventh track (5'15") consists entirely of spoken segues: "What are you in terror of?/Life needn't step on baby fingers/The minutes fall and the demons find their ways unencumbered/Half dead, poisoned by their own fatal art". Next is Nathan Adler and following him is Baby Grace Blue: "I think we're stuck in a web/A sort of nerve net/As it were, a sort of nerve-internet, as it were/We might be here for quite a long time, here, in this web or... internet, as it were/Gotta get away, gotta get away". Nothing To Be Desired/Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): 'Nothing To Be Desired', which was released as a B-side only, forms the basis of the next track (5'50"). The lyrics include "The editors have done an excellent job/The selections are generous, the notations are scrupulously thoroughly/To believe that the quality of a CD-ROM can be conveyed through translation may seem presumptuous, but I believe the enterprise is greatly successful [...] The editorial apparatus of the CD-ROM leaves nothing to be desired." At 2'30" the song changes tempo: "In far-off California, there is no natural plan/Its mighty branching and its preponderant bowls weigh heavy on a sun-tag morning" and at 3'00" the track develops into a long version of the familiar 'Baby Grace Blue' segue: "And then I recognized the small friends, because one of them was a very infamous and he was a grand visionary, he was the grand visionary, he was who was on a television". The Enemy Is Fragile (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): track eight (4'10") starts off with "Hallo Leon, would you like something really fishy?". On the Stamford Hill site, Reeves Gabrels identified this track as 'The Enemy Is Fragile'. "The enemy is always there/You could have been fighting to the death, but no!/Well, wrap up, and you'll go dancing, Leon!/Dance fishy?/Something in her mouth/There's something in her mouth/Something mysterious". Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): next is a 2'23" piano ballad. The atmosphere of this track is quite similar to 'The Motel'. Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the penultimate track on the CD is a long version of the 'Algeria Touchshriek' segue, lasting five minutes: "Possibly, just maybe, after a nice cup of tea/Some trip of the time/We'll creep together down the memory lane/And then we'll be blind and full of bubbly ambition/Instead of the slump males that we are/Looking through windows for demons/Watching the young advance in all electric". Unknown (Bowie/Eno/Gabrels/Garson/Kizilcay/Campbell): the final track, rather clumsily mixed in when the Touchshriek track fades out, is a totally different, up-tempo song: "Leon, lift up your eyes/The very stars are calling/Your name is Leon/Leon is your name/Murder!" по поводу официальных ауттэйков: "Outside" outtakes: 1."The Animals" (from the "Showgirls" soundtrack) 2."Nothing To Be Desired" (from "The Hearts Filthy Lesson" single) 3."Get Real" (from the "Outside" Japanese edition) песню "The Animals" не слышал кстати, надо поискать David Bowie interview was getting high on a lot of drugs back in 94 during the "Leon"/"Outside" musical era, so that would xplain the weirdness of the music he recorded from the "Leon"/"Outside" period! и ещё такое есть: "9.outside" with 50 minutes of the Outside Sessions Outtakes direct from the source
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: бутлег "8 Outsiders" (ещё известен под названием "Something Really Fishy") круто, спасибо!=) будет что слушать сегодня ночью) Ziggy Pop пишет: On March 12 1994, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Reeves Gabrels... а ты где эту инфу брал? Ziggy Pop пишет: "The Animals" не слышал кстати аналогично хммм.. не знала, что столько всего с аутсайда осталось.. радует! хоть так послушать..
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: песню "The Animals" не слышал кстати, надо поискать Ziggy Pop пишет: (from the "Showgirls" soundtrack) кхм может я что путаю? но нашла этот саундтрэк, там нет такой песни, там из Боуи только I'm Afraid Of Americans тут
Ziggy Pop: Coma пишет: спасибо!=) будет что слушать сегодня ночью) вот тут FLAC, если надо: http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=267835 Coma пишет: а ты где эту инфу брал? здесь: http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/outside.htm хороший ресурс кстати=) Coma пишет: нашла этот саундтрэк, там нет такой песни, там из Боуи только I'm Afraid Of Americans странно, ха...) Видимо кто-то что-то перепутал.
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