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Последние НОВОСТИ (продолжение 2)
Zero: Последние НОВОСТИ предыдущая часть
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: we've got big plans in the works for next year, including new Teargarden plans (different than 2010/change of direction/plans/a positive change) У нас большой план работ на следующий год. В том числе есть планы относительно альбома (другие, нежели в 2010/смена направления/планов/перемены к лучшему).
Philosopher: пиздит как Троцкий
Ziggy Pop: да что там переводить? Коргна надеется, что у всех замечательный день. Коргна счастлива и довольна. У Коргны выдалось несколько свободных дней перед тем, как они отправятся в Техас, чтобы начать завершающую часть тура, а затем группа уходит на каникулы. we've got big plans in the works for next year, including new Teargarden plans (different than 2010/change of direction/plans/a positive change) у нас большие планы в разработке на следующий год, включая новые Тиагадэн планы (не такие, как 2010/изменение направления/планов/позитивное изменение)
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: пиздит как Троцкий нам не привыкать
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan posts to Facebook a 14-part remembrance of what was supposed to be the Smashing Pumpkins’ last concert ok...Metro, dec 2, 2000...dusting off my brain now x wow...10 years since the 'last' old SP break-up show...how time flies...i'll post some reflections on that show on here later today. hope everyone is having a GREAT day...going to the ocean now to say my prayers and make amends xo pt 1 first thing that comes to mind is that we only had about 6 days to prepare the about 14 or so extra songs that we added to try to make the show both historic and memorable. normally this much work in such a short time would have been met with resistance, but everyone was in good spirits to have the 11 months of touring finally over pt 2 my original plan was to book the metro out for the whole month of January and make one last album, writing songs and recording them live in rehearsal and then playing them at night at the 'shows'...can't remember how many shows we would have done per week? maybe 3 or 4. Iha+ Auf Der Maur hated the idea and said no…. a shame, could have been amazing. band was tight at that point and i was motivated to write more. pt 3 we had the 2nd to last show at The United Center, and we wanted to film that as well. unfortunately the building wanted to charge us (i could be wrong but...) 50,000$ just for the 'right' to film, not counting the actual costs it would have been to film. so there is no video that i know of. if there is it might be… a lone camera. that show was amazing, although we were criticized for opening the show acoustic pt 4 we had been opening with 5 songs acoustic in Europe as a way to set a different tone because each night the audience was thinking they were seeing the band for the last time. there the audiences went with the somber beginning, and so i stupidly assumed that an American audience would go the same way with it. Wrong…! once we finally lit it up with 'glass' theme (song 6) the place went nuts pt 5 for the Metro show itself, we found someone to be a clown in between acts, to hold the sign up announcing each of the 3 parts. what most people don't know is that the kid doing it (a total coincidence) was related to Jonathon Melvoin. i found out before the show, but i took it as a sign that his spirit was with us… in the building that night so i said i was fine with pt 6 we played 38 songs i believe, over 4 hours of music. i had never p[layed that long before, nor have i since. i wasn't even sure my voice would hold up that long, but it did. actually it got stronger as the night went on. the first song was 'rocket', which we were supposed to play after the mellon collie theme intr…o, which was played off a cd. the theme finished, i lit into the opening riff of 'rocket'. pt 7 unfortunately, no one turned off the cd, , so as i was playing i heard 'tonight, tonight' come blaring out of the p.a....classic SP fuck-up for trying to be fancy. the show as i remember was fairly good, but incredibly hot and at about 90 min in the crowd was just totally worn out. i thoughtto myself 'wow, we got a long way to go!' pt 8 act 2 honestly felt like a sad funeral, and people started talking. i felt the whole thing slipping away from me, but i realized that it was all part of the journey of death that we were on. life moves on, and when the show was over i too had to move on. i honestly thought that it would be the last time i would pl…ay most of these songs, and it felt good to let them go. pt 9 act three was designed to bring the energy back up, and it did. the last encore i think was 'silverfuck', which had a lot of improvisation in it. it wasn't all planned out, and i remember thinking of my deceased mother alot. it all came down to 'where was mommy?' in the end of it all, as it begins so does it end. …i turned to look at Jimmy and said 'that's it', and it ended without form best as i remember. pt 10 i broke down on stage crying but i remember being quite embarassed about it. i've thought about that moment many times, and i wish in hindsight that i'd let myself just have a good cry right then and there, because you won't find yourself in a spot like that many times in your life. after we had a little party, p…laying dvd bootlegs of the band on a screen on stage. pt 11 once it was over, there was a shift, so playing the videos felt like watching a car crash again and again. it was overkill for everyone, including me. pictures and Chopin would have been better. i asked where James was, and someone had said he had left, without saying goodbye to me or Jimmy, a real final fuck you… in my eyes. outside of a phone conversation about business in 2001, i haven't seen him since pt 12 one more thing: please stop asking about the show ever coming out (i say this good heartedly). it will come out when the time is right. it should have come out in 2001 but EMI squashed it, and we got the rights back. hopefully it will be put out one day when tall he albums get re-issued. it would make sense for it to come out with the Machina era stuff. pt 13 i think as more time goes by we all should look at SP as having 2 totally different eras, 'old school' and 'new school' or whatever. call it what you want, the SP of 2005-2010 and counting has been a different animal, albeit with similar goals set in a different world. pt 14 'old' SP ended exactly 10 years ago this night, and it ain't ever coming back. from my vantage point, that's a good thing. that band will never sell out and never grow old gracefully (because honestly it couldn't). long live SP 1987-2000 a great fucking band when it was 'on'. and a nightmare when it was 'off'. thanks for checking out these thoughts/memories, love BC thanks everyone for so many kind and positive comments. much appreciated Коргна предаётся воспоминаниям по поводу финального концерта 2 декабря 2000 года. И снова дарит призрачную надежду на издание этого памятного (во всех смыслах) концерта: hopefully it will be put out one day when tall he albums get re-issued. it would make sense for it to come out with the Machina era stuff и вот это понравилось: 'old' SP ended exactly 10 years ago this night, and it ain't ever coming back. from my vantage point, that's a good thing. that band will never sell out and never grow old gracefully (because honestly it couldn't). long live SP 1987-2000 a great fucking band when it was 'on'. and a nightmare when it was 'off' да, Уильям, суровая правда
Philosopher: да, ждать нам этого dvd лет 20 как минимум =)) странно что Иха так поступил, но видимо не только дело в нем.
Zero: тока пизд**** и умеет!!! нет бы что взять и отдать фанам концерт 2000 года всетаки 10 лет прошло! вот уж прекрасный повод.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: нет бы что взять и отдать фанам концерт 2000 года всетаки 10 лет прошло! надо же, какой ты умный, ах********=)) Philosopher пишет: странно что Иха так поступил да это ж давно известный факт, ты что, впервые узнал?
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop ну то что у них конфликт был затяжной это и так понятно, но про то что Иха просто свалил после концерта только сейчас узнал =)
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: long live SP 1987-2000 !
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: надо же, какой ты умный, ах********=)) еще бы! а ты не знал!!!
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: ну то что у них конфликт был затяжной это и так понятно, но про то что Иха просто свалил после концерта только сейчас узнал =) ага, просто тупо ушёл, не сказав никому ни слова, взял да и свалил под шумок, охуенный друг. Andy пишет: ! капитан Очеви не дремлет?=)
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop пишет: ага, просто тупо ушёл, не сказав никому ни слова, взял да и свалил под шумок, охуенный друг. я сомневаюсь что он сделал это специально, вернее не так. Он как раз сделал это специально, наверняка Коргна его в этом туре довел до ручки, так что Иха хотя бы так дверью хлопнул.
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: наверняка Коргна его в этом туре довел до ручки назови хоть один тур из 90-х, когда этого не было? Philosopher пишет: так что Иха хотя бы так дверью хлопнул да он просто зассал перед Могучим Билли
Ziggy Pop: Before leaping into future, Pumpkins look to past for one last round Tonight the Smashing Pumpkins begin their last set of shows in 2010, a seven-stop trip through the American Southwest. The tour starts tonight in Dallas, TX, and ends December 12 in San Diego, CA. Yesterday, Corgan suggested on Facebook that the band will take a break from touring for at least six months and possibly a year, proclaiming somewhat mysteriously that in 2011 the band will “leap fast and lean into the future,” and hinting that future shows may not feature the “old faves” played in 2010. видимо будет воспитывать дрессировать в студии малыша Майки, концерты подождут
Desire: Есть подозрения, что большую часть следующего года мы от Коргана кроме громких речей ничего не услышим. Ну нам не привыкать! :)
Ziggy Pop: Desire пишет: Есть подозрения, что большую часть следующего года мы от Коргана кроме громких речей ничего не услышим. да не-е, пару "супер" EP'шек точно получим
Desire: По п..де мешалкой мы получим! Корган в запой отдыхать собрался.
Ziggy Pop: Desire пишет: По п..де мешалкой мы получим! если она у тебя есть, то ты, несомненно, получишь
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan uses his Facebook account to solicit acoustic requests for tonight’s show in New Mexico, reveal that The Sacred and Profane and Jennifer Ever have been recently rehearsed, good-naturedly joke about never again playing songs written (Mayonaise) or performed (Zeitgeist) by former bandmates. сегодня на концерте в Нью-Мехико возможно сыграют машиновскую The Sacred and Profane и Jennifer Ever (привет концу 80-х!!). По крайней мере Корган сказал, что эти 2 песни have been recently rehearsed. Jennifer Ever по-моему последний раз играли году эдак в 1990-м
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