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Последние НОВОСТИ (продолжение 2)
Zero: Последние НОВОСТИ предыдущая часть
Ziggy Pop: Mike Byrne’s “side band” Jewels and the Wall Walkers releases three songs 01. Meanwhile, Behind Vault Doors (04:11) 02. Jewels and The Wall Walkers - When will it happen? How will I know? (04:36) 03. Seeing Her Back To The Asylum (06:54) http://ryanamiller.bandcamp.com/album/when-will-it-happen-how-will-i-know A split recorded with Mike Byrne - (Drums - The Smashing Pumpkins, Moses Smell The Roses, Bearcubbin) and James Crutcher - (Bass - With Eyes Abstract, Bearcubbin, Moses Smell The Roses). This album is one half of the Bearcubbin/Jewels split. Enjoy!
WOLK: кому нужен етот сопляк? Из принципа полнейший игнор.
Andy: Местами немного напоминает JCC.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: немного напоминает JCC. да, есть такой момент
Ziggy Pop: Argentina, Chile to host Smashing Pumpkins arena shows The band announced today that it will head to the two southernmost countries in South America, booking dates on November 18 at Buenos Aires landmark Luna Park and on November 23 at Movistar Arena in Santiago. According to SmashingPumpkins.com, tickets will go on sale a week from today. These arena concerts are sandwiched around the previously announced November 20 festival date in Sаo Paulo.
Zero: послушал щас эти три трека Jewels and the Wall Walkers - какаято ху***.
Philosopher: Zero + миллиард
Zero: Philosopher +2 миллиарда ))))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: какаято ху***. ху***, конечно, а что, разве кто-то говорил, что это шедевры?
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: ху***, конечно, а что, разве кто-то говорил, что это шедевры? все молчат!!! толком ничего не говорят.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: толком ничего не говорят. Andy, по-моему достаточно сказал вполне;)
Zero: Ты про это чтоли!!!! Andy пишет: Местами немного напоминает JCC. да это конешно о многом говорит. меня это наоборот заставило послушать эту ху***.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: меня это наоборот заставило послушать эту ху***. это и был план Andy, ты его просто не просёк=) ладно, щас переслушаю специально эти 3 песни, вдруг что-то изменилось по сравнению со вчерашним днём
Ziggy Pop: переслушал, прог-рок какой-то. хорошо, что вокала нет
Ziggy Pop: Rolling Stone #8 (73)_2010 сраные дрочеры ах-ха-хахах-ха-ха=)))
Philosopher: лукавит Корган, по-любому к нему все через постель попадают
Andy: Роллинг Стоун такой Роллинг Стоун.
Zero: Зиг а че это за журнал? чудная статейка!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: а че это за журнал? в моём посте всё написано
Zero: сраные дрочеры Да это жесть!!! Эх Ролинг Стоунс, Ролинг Стоунс.....
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: Эх да ладно эхать, волне адекватный перевод на русский язык
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: да ладно эхать, волне адекватный перевод на русский язык да я б так не сказал!!!!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: да я б так не сказал!!!! вот сиди и молчи тогда=) или тебя лично задели его слова?
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: вот сиди и молчи тогда=) или тебя лично задели его слова? приколист блин!!!!!!!!!!! ну не красиво как то написано! вот и все!
Ziggy Pop: Pretty one to follow “Freak” August 23, 2010 Billy Corgan got news this afternoon that the sixth song from Teargarden by Kaleidyscope will be released in mid-September, which would be over two months after the release of the album’s fifth song, “Freak.” Corgan describes the new song as “a pretty one,” and “one of [his] faves ever.” новая песня выйдет в середине сентября
Ziggy Pop: Pumpkins add tour dates in Houston and Dallas August 23, 2010 In a pair of tweets this evening, the Smashing Pumpkins announced that they have added two dates to their upcoming tour — September 21 at the Warehouse Live in Houston and September 22 at the Palladium Ballroom in Dallas. Houston goes on sale THIS Friday (8/27) and Dallas next Monday (8/30).
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: Corgan describes the new song as “a pretty one,” and “one of [his] faves ever.” посмотрим!!! насколько она будет хороша!
Zero: небось owata выпустят какуюнить, корган ее частенько потомучто играет.
Andy: Я очень надеюсь на Circular Change.
Andy: Now back in Los Angeles after the Smashing Pumpkins’ jaunt through Asia, Billy Corgan sat down for the camera with producer and friend Kerry Brown and posted a nearly 20-minute video interview to Facebook this evening. He discusses his excitement about this weekend’s massive Sunset Strip music festival, the chemistry of the current band line-up, and takes some questions from fans on Twitter. Check out the full video for more, but here are a few highlights: # The band is now finishing up the artwork for the second EP and fully intend to get it out by the end of this year. Billy realizes the project release cycle has been difficult to stick to, but wants to do the EPs the right way and put out a great product. He’s very complimentary of designer Noel Waggener and mentions their plans to mix it up for each EP in terms of format, release, and packaging. # After dusting off several of his vintage guitars for the recent Matthew Leone benefit concert at the Metro, Billy has been thinking of using them again more frequently. Jeff is lobbying in support of this measure. We are too. (YESSSSS!) # News on The Chicago Kid Project: it’s now curated by Matt Walker who has discovered approximately 72 songs from era. They’re currently trying to go through and curate all the live, studio, and video media that exists and hopefully put together something by next year. Billy mentions Christmas. He also thoughtfully weighs in on the analog / digital debate and the work ethic he’s followed throughout his career. Definitely some interest insight, so check out the full video for more! http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2010/08/23/billy-corgan-sits-down-for-lengthy-facebook-interview/ Videos Posted by The Smashing Pumpkins: Aug 23, 2010 2:47pm | Facebook Highlights: - EP 2's artwork has been signed off on and he's hoping for the physical release to occur by the end of the year. -Matt Walker is now in charge of getting the Chicago songs (now called the "Chicago Kid" project) sorted out and into some kind of releasable form. Apparently there are 72 songs from that era that they're choosing from. They're wanting to have a DVD/box set kind of thing out by the end of next year. -Billy wants to put out a Gish reissue or box set for the 20th Anniversary of it next year. He says he's gotten the rights for the material, but that he wants EMI to participate in it somehow to help it get out. He wants fans to somehow get it across to them that there's enough interest in the idea to make it worth their while to help Billy put it out. He suggested that without help, he wouldn't be able to put it out on his own until he's 50. -Billy is tossing around the idea of touring on his own, playing small acoustic shows where he pretty much plays whatever he wants from his entire catalog. He specifically mentioned playing Zwan and TFE songs in addition to SP songs. But he says SP are so in demand these days that finding the time to do such a tour is problematic. http://forums.netphoria.org/smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-discussion/171152-really-good-billy-interview.html
Zero: куча красивых слов!!!!!! ждать нам всего этого всю жизнь
Philosopher: опять этот трёп про Гиш бок-сет А вот что более полезно, пусть действительно в сет-листы включает песни Звона и сольные темы, так горпаздо интереснее будет
Desire: As Rome burns пускай в студии включает!!!
Ziggy Pop: Pumpkins’ “Fellowship” joins soundtrack for TV’s “Vampire Diaries” “The Fellowship,” a new song from the Smashing Pumpkins, will appear on a soundtrack album being issued on October 12 for “The Vampire Diaries,” a television program returning in the fall for its second season on the CW network. A listing on Amazon.com also implies that music from the track could be used in upcoming episodes: The ORIGINAL TELEVISION SOUNDTRACK: THE VAMPIRE DIARIES features exclusive fan favorites from Season One + new tracks that will be featured in Season Two. Pumpkins songwriter Billy Corgan has performed “The Fellowship” in concert before, specifically when he toured southern California in 2009 as part of Spirits in the Sky.
Ziggy Pop: Corgan remakes Kinks’ “Destroyer” with Ray Davies For a forthcoming album on which he re-records many of his great Kinks hits, Ray Davies has worked with Bruce Springsteen, Black Francis, Bon Jovi, Spoon, Alex Chilton, and others. A blog post written by Kerry Brown last night suggests that Smashing Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan is also taking part: Billy was in this week to record a track for Ray Davies the two of them are collaborating on a remake of Destroyer: Mr. Mark Tulin from The Electric Prunes played bass and Kevin Dippold engineered the track. “Destroyer” — itself a bit of a remake, as it incorporates the riff from the Kinks’ “All Day and All of the Night,” which Zwan covered several times on its April 2002 tour of the Midwest — was a U.S. hit for the Kinks in 1981.
Ziggy Pop: The Smashing Pumpkins are in Mexico City to resume their world tour tonight at the Auditorio Nacional, and Gustavo Turner of urban publication L.A. Weekly has just published an interview done with Billy Corgan prior to his departure for the D.F. The interview is respectful, substantive, and runs to five web pages, but seems unlikely to make ‘news’ unless Perez Hilton takes exception to Corgan’s sympathetic words for “brilliant and talented” pop singer Christina Aguilera. Here is an excerpt in which Corgan analyzes the current “moment” for him and his band: Right now I’m in a very unique position because I’m standing right at this kind of crossroads where I’ve done the impossible. I’ve managed to put a band onstage that people are accepting, when you’re not supposed to be able to do that. People are actually enjoying the shows, even more so than two years ago. I’m having new success when I’m not supposed to be having new success. So, we’re right at this sort of beautiful moment when it’s like, “There’s still energy here, what’s going on, curiosity, media, fans, concerts,” and it’s sort of a beautiful honeymoon moment — that won’t last. And I’ve already told the band, internally, “This is about a year.” A year from now the difference will be, “Do we stand on our own in this moment with the new music that I’m going to write?” It’s a nice balance right now of honoring the past, honoring the present, and indications of a bright future. But ultimately the clock is ticking on that and I feel we got about a year. Basically, in the next year I need to prove that I have a whole ‘nother — something to say. An “expanded, uncut version” of this interview is now available: http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/interviews/billy-corgan-expanded-intervie/
Ziggy Pop: UK retailers list 2nd 'Teargarden' EP, November release date THE SOLSTICE BARE is the second chapter in the Smashing Pumpkins long-awaited 44-song concept album (After the release of TEARGARDEN BY KALEIDYSCOPE VOL. 1 – RSV006 in May 2010). Once again this deluxe release is housed in a limited edition box (12.25' square x 1/2' deep) this time featuring a 1970's design by The Flavor Paper Co. Set includes a 12' Vinyl Picture EP & a deluxe CD in mock gatefold sleeve all with beautifully screen printed artwork by NOEL WAGGENER of SubCulture Press. The page says there are five new tracks (including Freak) but does not list them. As with first EP Songs for a Sailor, the production run is limited to 10.000 worldwide. What Records gives a release date of November 11, but one other retailer's listing says November 22. http://www.whatrecords.co.uk/items/56651.htm http://www.spincds.com/product.asp?id=9025799
Ziggy Pop: Twenty Minutes with Billy Corgan Billy Corgan: “Right now I’d say we’re the beneficiaries of surprising people… maybe because their expectations are so low?” http://www.independent.com/news/2010/sep/03/twenty-minutes-billy-corgan/
Ziggy Pop: Yet Another Continent It was announced Wednesday that the Smashing Pumpkins will be heading to Australia for a string of five shows spread across across the country in a week, starting off in Perth on October 12th and finishing off in Brisbane on October 17th. A 24 hour pre-sale available to “Frontier Touring Company Members” begins at noon AEST (trust you Aussies know what/when that means) on September 14th, with the general on-sale kicking off on September 16th at 9am (local time in each city, it seems). The venues are all in the 2,000-2,500 capacity range. Take notice that the show at the The Tivoli in Brisbane is listed as being an 18+ event while the rest are all ages. Europe, where the 21st century Pumpkins debuted in 2007, is no doubt wondering when its turn will arrive in this slowly developing world tour.
Andy: My memory of a chat with Billy before the Sacramento show here is what Billy and I talked about that i can recall I asked Billy what speed teargarden theme was suppose to be played at.. and he changed the subject to asking if anyone had heard the alt version Teargarden Theme that was suppose to be on the 7" with the lucky 100 gold obelisk . Since no one has seem to reportedly gotten one of the 100 by my report to him (and if there have been ones i hadn't heard anything about it.) Billy picked up his Blackberry and sent out an email right then and there to find out what happen. EMI had done some research costing some 3 million dollars and they found out that SP has a strong core base and that the casual fan has a positive perception of Smashing Pumpkins. He mention that the Gish box set really looked like a go. EMI had done a lot of market research and saw that doing something with Gish would make good sales. SP gave them what they would require to be an expectable deal before the 7 EMI people left. But when it came back it was so far off that Billy said that his lawyer (who happens to be a she) laughed at them and they just said screw it. And this meeting happen like a year ago, Billy was reserved about putting out the box on his own because if the Gish box didn't sell then that could screw it for future projects He also mention again how the music companies are looking for a new model to do business for the past 10 years with the introduction of the internet, and he felt that things are still in a change. But the thing that hasn't changed is that the bands are still being treated by the record companies, with the attitude of you need us, we don't need you. Which is completely wrong. seven years after Billy's Warner Bro contract is expired Billy will retain all the rights to the songs from Zwan, his solo album and Zeitgeist. He owns the rights to everything Gish and pre. along with some 28 shows that were video taped (which if i recall right was before Gish came out) Billy mention that their are pretty much instrumentals of every song post Gish that he would like to put out sometime. He cancel the archive project because of the lack of support of the core fans. He mention a number of 300k would needed to be put into the project (that number could of just been a number), but he can't just hope that it works out without fan support. The fans need to help put the money out there first to get it going. But all the talk of "well what if it sucks?" is really what killed it He also said he would love to go to China, but has never been made an offer. and the best part was at one point i asked about the change of his twitter icon to the 2 horses, and he kind of laughed and said "Monte you need to spend more time with your beautiful wife" i also joked with him about how my supportive wife was ok with us going to santa barbara. I had told her lets go on a romantic get away to Santa Barbara on Labor Day weekend, but do u mind if we see an SP concert, they just happen to be there MonteLDS http://montelds.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-memory-of-chat-with-billy-before.html
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: alt version Teargarden Theme that was suppose to be on the 7" with the lucky 100 gold obelisk интересно Andy пишет: EMI had done a lot of market research and saw that doing something with Gish would make good sales. ну-ну Andy пишет: He cancel the archive project because of the lack of support of the core fans. жаль...
Philosopher: какое-то странное решение... Лысому нужно по хребтине бамбуковыми палками раз 25, как минимум !
Andy: Че-то он все усложняет. Оцифруй пленки и выложи на какой-нибудь Bandcamp или похожий ресурс, а фанаты путь заплатят за скачивание, сколько не пожалеют. И все дела. Нет времени - отдай пленки фанатам, сами все сделают. Вот развел тягомотину. А Гиш-коробку мы ещё долго не увидим, я так понимаю.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Че-то он все усложняет да потому что это Билли-Лысый-Шизоид, всегда так было, простых путей Корган не ищет, а зря, иногда надо бы пробовать нечто иное Andy пишет: развел тягомотину да по башке ему дать хорошенько надо
Zero: Andy пишет: А Гиш-коробку мы ещё долго не увидим, я так понимаю. я уж ее и не жду!!!!!!!! как и концерт 2000 года......... КОРГАН ТЫ СУ**
Ziggy Pop: Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan talks about himself, the band and its four-year release of a 44-song project The Smashing Pumpkins' latest single, "Freak," is song number six of a 44-song, four-part album bandleader Billy Corgan plans on releasing, one song at a time, for free, online, over the next four years. It's also the best song in recent memory. By Jonathan Zwickel Special to The Seattle Times http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/musicnightlife/2012855005_smashing10.html
Ziggy Pop: BILLY Corgan talks about his girlfriend, the Veronicas' Jessica Origliasso , and the girls going solo Let’s talk your girlfriend, Jessica Origliasso of the Veronicas She’s a really beautiful person inside and out. Those two girls are so talented. I was recently in a writing session with them, they legit, and I’ve told them this, they could both be world class solo artists. It’s crazy they’re both together. They feed off each other’s strengths and weakness. It’s really interesting to watch them work. I really am impressed by both of them musically a lot. I’ve heard a lot of their new stuff, the direction they’re going is really really cool. It’s still very much pop music, but they’re so sophisticated in their knowledge of pop music. ..So you’re writing with Jess and Lisa? It’s more hanging out fun stuff, not like a super pro thing. That’s how I met them, they asked me to write a song, that was the beginning of the whirlwind. You’ve said you’re in a good place, is that due to being loved up? I was in a good place and that’s why I ended up in a good relationship. Both of us have been in stormy relationships. You’ve got to be ready to be in a great relationship. Being with someone as beautiful and talented as Jess is you’ve gotta be real. You can’t be a fake version of something. In our lives in a lot of ways it’s all about fake. You’ve got people wanting things for fake reasons. The people you end up closest to are your family and friends. We both understand what it’s like to be not really understood. We have that support for each other and understand what each other are going through. It’s only made my life better. She’s brought a lot of sunshine in my life, but I was ready to receive it. The window was open. If she’d met me a few years ago I don’t know if I would have understood her, she’s just such a unique person, there’s not a lot of people I’ve ever met who are like her. You look at her, she works the homeless glam look, but inside she’s just a sweetie pie. She’s very spiritual, very much about family. We both have Italian background, we laugh and say this is really an Italian relationship. Is Jessica coming to Australia on this tour? Can’t say for sure but that’s the plan. Have you performed on stage together yet? Not yet. They both love my song Eye, I’m hoping Jess and Lisa will get up and perform Eye with us at some point. We’ll see. She was with me in Mexico, I was trying to get her up on stage but she was too shy. And you’ve met the parents? Yep. It’s all great. Everyone’s really nice. She comes from a great family. It’s all good. So you’re going out with Australian pop royalty… She’s going out with American rock royalty. You got photographed together on your visit to Australia with the sisters earlier this year. It’s all silliness to me. I’ve certainly heard about her past tabloid dramas! I’ve been through all that, to me it doesn’t mean anything. The good thing about being crazy is what are they going to say? He’s crazy? Uh huh. Oh he’s evil? Yeah. He’s old? Yes and getting older. It’s all there. None of it is going to affect me, I’m in a good place, I’m happy, I’m proud to have a woman like her on my arm. She’s someone I really look up to. You’re bringing Smashing Pumpkins back to Australia with a slightly new line up, what’s different from when we saw you at the V Festival in 2008? I loved that tour but the way we were playing on that tour was a little bit of the old Smashing Pumpkins mentality, the poke your finger in your chest thing. We didn’t do what people wanted us to do. It’s a little kinder, gentler these days. Is there a battle for you between playing old hits and showing people you’re still writing new material? I’ve come into a different place of peace with that. It’s a simple formula for me now, I don’t play any song I don’t want to play. I don’t care what song it is. At the same time I don’t play too much new stuff and I don’t play too much old stuff. Maybe the concert’s a little shorter but the show feels lighter and more to the point. Did you play songs you didn’t want to play to keep people happy? I made a bargain in my brain which was `Ok if I’m gonna play these five songs you want to hear I’ll play these five songs I don’t give a f--- if you don’t wanna hear’. I’d play songs that were a bit hard to digest in a live context. That was the trade off I was making. I’ve gotten out of that kind of relationship with myself. It probably sounds a bit silly and childish, but now it’s all coming from a good place. I tend to be reactionary. Sometimes you can create something in your mind that’s not there. Right now we’re not playing 1979 and no one’s complaining because the show is good. Do you feel like you have something more to prove now you’re the only original Pumpkin in this line up? I feel my public persona at times has overshadowed my musical accomplishment. I get frustrated when I see people who’ve done less than me and had less success than me enjoying more ass-kissing. I’m held up to different standards. I partially asked for that to happen. I’ve always invited the toughest rock and roll questions with the Smashing Pumpkins. At the same time I’m in my 20th year here of putting out records. It’s not a mistake I wandered into the garden. I’ve had success literally for 20 years, that’s a long time in a business that chews people up and spit them up. So I get frustrated when I feel I have to prove something. So in a childish way in the past my reaction would be to over-prove the point. You want heavy Pumpkins? I’ll give you evil Pumpkins. You want hit songs? I’ll give you hit songs, I just won’t play them the way you want to hear them. I’m out of that now. I’m really happy to play the songs in the way they were recorded, in a way that the whole history of the band is respected. Because I’m respecting my own past. But I’m not a slave to do it. I’ve saved all my money, I don’t need to do or be anything. I’m an independent artist, I’m not on a label, I literally just do what I want to do. There are fans who’d want to freeze frame you in the Siamese Dream era ... I know. My friends tell me they saw Bruce Springsteen show where people would only cheer when he played songs form the 80s and they’d talk through new songs. It’s a cultural thing. It’s an old fashioned way to look at music, the `hope I die before I get old’ mentality, that rock and roll doesn’t have a future. You’re too young and dumb when you have your moment and when by the time you realise it you’re too old and on drugs and it’s too late. We’re writing a new rock and roll story, you get up to too close to the sun, you burn out, you crash to the ground but then you pick yourself up and dust off what still means something. There’s a lot of bands way past any point people thought they’d exist AC/DC, the Stones, Paul McCartney. The key for me is releasing new music of a high quality. That’s where I differentiate myself from a lot of peers, they’re just out there making money, they’re not putting out new music and if they are it’s sh-- music. I want to be judged against the highest quality of work not that just that I’ve ever done but that anyone has done. I refuse to become an oldies act. I’m just not interested. I think it’s f---ing boring. And I think anyone who thinks that way is f---ing boring. If you want to come and only hear five songs they’re welcome to, they might get those songs but that’s not what the show is about, those songs are integrated into a much bigger picture. You’re giving away the new Smashing Pumpkins songs for free on your website so presumably people have heard your new songs? Yes. But there’s a perception issue that the past was glorious and perfect and the present is some lesser version of that. It’s just not true. You’ve just got to keep putting out quality music. When a 15 year old discovers Pink Floyd from 1970, he doesn’t give a f--- that line up of the band doesn’t exist. He’ll go to You Tube and find some old bootleg live clip. All bands are existing all the time now. When people get sentimental I say there’s tons of videos and record. The old Smashing Pumpkins exist, go listen to them. I’m in the new Smashing Pumpkins, I’m making new music. Don’t weigh me down with something that’s not real. I’m playing songs that represent my past the way I want to be represented. There’s no compromise in that. That way I’m a happy person. I’m not a conflicted artist, I’m in a really happy place. I’ve survived. I’m not burnt out. I haven’t done drugs for ten years. I’m happy, I’m a little fat. That’s about it. What do you say to people who still think you’re going to reunite the original line up? The band has really been about the truth. We had a drummer (Jimmy Chamberlain) who was whacked out of his band on drugs, we kicked him out of the band because he was gonna die. You know how many millions that decision cost me? I was more interested in this guy living than making more money. Anyone else would have stopped for three months, put him in rehab and put him right back on tour. This is the truth. I’m gonna play my music. If your reason for not going, whether there’s one original member, two original members, there original members…if that’s your sole reason for not going you’re not a fan of my music and certainly don’t respect what I’ve accomplished. So you’d go if it was Billy Corgan playing Smashing Pumpkins songs but not if it’s Billy Corgan in Smashing Pumpkins playing Smashing Pumpkins songs. Doesn’t that sound shallow? I don’t live in a shallow world. I don’t give a f--- about the pop world. That world isn’t there for me in the down times, when I doubt myself, when I’m scared or lost or feeling lonely. That world only cares about me when they like me. When you learn that lesson again and again you realise that the only thing that matters is what you believe in, what you love, those you love and those that love you. If someone is not going to come see me play after 20 f---ing years because they disagree with the way I present myself and not even give me an opportunity… I meet fans who are excited to be a Smashing Pumpkins fans again because we’re going to keep releasing new music. It’s back to why they liked the band. They didn’t love the band because they loved James, D’Arcy, Jimmy and Billy, they loved the band because the band represented something they believed in, they liked the message, they liked the music. What about the fan that says I love Siamese Dream? Me and Jimmy made the whole record. So you’re not going to go because the drummer’s not there but the guy who wrote almost the whole record is there. They’re arguments for the pop world. I live in alternative world, I don’t live by those rules. I don’t give a f--- about those rules. Presumably you don’t want to share a stage with your former bandmates… Why would I get on stage with someone who doesn’t call me for Christmas? Because the guy in the back row who doesn’t give a f-- about my new song, that’s the only way he wants to hear Bullet with Butterfly Wings? They’re silly arguments to me. I understand. I really do. I’ve been in that situation as fan, it’s only one or two original members in a band. I’ve seen bands with members who weren’t part of the original band and I really enjoyed the show, I enjoyed the way they played. And I’ve seen original line ups where they obviously hate each other and it’s boring because there’s no chemistry. It’s more about people’s fantasy. It’s like their porn. It’s their porn fantasy of my world but my world has never been like that. When was my band ever intact? The only time the band only really worked together on the same page in any way that resembles normalcy was Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and even then I still did 85% of those songs. You’re a Summer Heights High fan. That show is so f---ing brilliant. How did you discover that? Me Aussie girlfriend. When someone says `You have to watch this it’s so brilliant’, Everyone says that but within an hour I was addicted. Over three days we had a Summer Heights High marathon, that’s all we did, watch that show. I can’t wait for his new show. Can we talk the C word – Courtney Love? There was a lot of drama about you not wanting to release the songs you wrote on Hole’s latest album … It’s complicated. At the time I was living in her house. Tabloids reported we were back together, I haven’t had any kind of romantic relationship with her since the early 90s. But I was living in her house, I worked on that record for a really long time. I contributed; I was trying to help with her and Linda Perry. She’s a great artist, I’ve always believed in her ability and certainly have looked the other way with her issues. Out of the blue she’s talking shit. She’s got that crazy thing where she creates fantasies if people don’t do what she wants them to do, like saying I snuck onto her record. If you look at her latest set list one third are my songs, or I should say songs I made serious contributions to, I wrote the chorus or the riff. The irony to tell the world totally untrue things about me, and then to go on stage, act like a prima donna and play songs I wrote I just think don’t play my songs if my contribution is so worthless. She’s rendered herself irrelevant. She’s always going to be a great artist but she’s betrayed the important things that made her great so all that’s left is her fire. If people want to go watch her burn herself on stage, well, there’s always going to be someone who wants to see that. But judging by the attendances in America, she’s doing shows for 300 people, 200 people. She’s dug her own grave, I don’t have to do it for her. She slagged off Jessica too. I don’t know anything about that but it doesn’t surprise me. There’s no shortage of words to try and describe a pathological creature like Courtney Love Can we talk about you recording with Jessica Simpson? This is what it was. She was working on a song for her TV show. She played me the demo, it had potential, so she asked me to help on the song. I wrote a new part, I didn’t play on it, I helped it get in the right direction. That’s all it was. So to clarify, were you dating Jessica Simpson? Ah … I don’t know what to say about any of that. If you try to talk about it at all, because she’s such a tabloid figure, there’s no right answer. I have no interest in feeding that. She’s a great person, I care about her as a person, I have nothing bad to say about her, she’s a lovely person behind the scenes. I have no interest in feeding that fire. Courtney I don’t mind kicking dirt on because she’s just an idiot and she continues to slag me off. I’m enough of a gentleman not to talk about the things I’ve seen. She’s literally making stuff up. Believe me, if I told people what I’d really seen, well, if she thinks she’s got problems now… Do you have any favorite Smashing Pumpkins covers? Good question. The Passion Pit version of Tonight Tonight was really beautiful. I wish more people would cover my songs. The first Smashing Pumpkins album Gish turns 20 next year. Any plans for a reissue? Is there a lot of unreleased stuff in the vault? We have the worst relationship with our old record label. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve tried to get something going. We’ve got so much cool stuff. We hired a professional music archivist at one point to look at what we have in the vaults. He said he’d never seen anything like it. And that’s what he does for a living. He was overwhelmed. We have so much stuff because I always documented everything. We have the first 60 Smashing Pumpkins shows on tape in some form or another. If you are that interested you can literally sit and hear the band from the first gig to the entire build up to the first album Gish, how we got there, horrible gigs, bad songs, the whole thing. We want to put it all out, there’s an audience out there constantly asking for it, but our old record label is just living in some other universe and they’re just not interested. It might come out for 25th anniversary record. Tell us about the new Pumpkins song you’ve just uploaded, Spangled. It’s a pretty song. I really like it a lot. It’s classic Pumpkins. It’s been an interesting journey. I’m so excited to be invested in the future of the Smashing Pumpkins again. For a long time it felt with my past `Can I f---ing move on? Can I grow up? Can I get old’. I’m that space now where it is about the future again and I’m excited. The new line up of the Pumpkins – were they fans of the band before they joined? Totally. They beg me to play songs. They’re fans. That’s the beautiful thing. They have this really interesting take on what matters to a Smashing Pumpkins fans. They’re not just someone I hired to play the bass. They’re part of the discussion about what it takes to have integrity. It’s simple. We’re coming to Australia. We’re going to tear the house down. People are not going to walk out of those show disappointed. Believe me, I’ve seen people who have seen 40 shows. They have their arms crossed at the start, their hands are in the air by the end. They thank me because they got their fucking band back. That band people who have the fantasy back, that band can’t get on stage. So your choices are what exists or no existences. If that’s the choice, I’m going with what exists. I’m not going back to the other thing. It ain’t going to happen. It’s a fantasy. It’s a porn fantasy, we’re all going to get on stage and hold hands and wave and play all of Siamese Dream perfect. It’s not going to happen. Grow the f--- up. It’s a new world. What would Mr G do? Would Mr G accept this?
Ziggy Pop: Cherri Bomb to join Smashing Pumpkins’ tour Billy Corgan tweeted this morning that the Smashing Pumpkins will be joined on tour by Cherri Bomb, an all-girl teenage rock band from Los Angeles. The band opened for Filter during this year’s Sunset Strip Music Festival, which the Pumpkins headlined. According to ReverbNation.com, all members of Cherri Bomb are between 12 and 14 years old. Drummer Nia Lovelis lists the Pumpkins as one of her favorite artists on the band’s website, and singer/guitarist Julia Pierce lists former Pumpkins bassist D’arcy Wretzky and Zwan bassist Paz Lenchantin among her “favorite girl artists.”
Ziggy Pop: A 30-second preview of “The Fellowship,” the Smashing Pumpkins’ contribution to the Vampire Diaries soundtrack, is now available for iTunes users http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/the-vampire-diaries/id393388671
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan to read, perform in Paris Billy Corgan will perform at a bookstore in Paris, France on September 30th. He and Claire Fercak will read selections from their recently released book, Chants Magnetiques, and Corgan will play some music. The performance will take place at Atout Livre, an independent Parisian bookstore. Fans wishing to attend must e-mail echo.mendee@gmail.com to reserve a spot. The event begins at 7:30 p.m. http://www.leoscheer.com/blog/2010/09/21/1400-billy-corgan-lecture-musicale-et-signature-a-la-librairie-atout-livre-le-jeudi-30-septembre
Ziggy Pop: Fool's-gold obelisk, it turns out, did herald something "special" Hey, remember the “special sparkly ‘fools gold’ obelisk” that replaced the comparably ordinary “leopard stone” obelisk in ninety-nine of the 10,000 copies of Smashing Pumpkins’ Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Vol. 1: Songs for a Sailor EP? …No? In a recent chat with a fan and a new video interview with Artisan News Service, Billy Corgan has belatedly provided some reason to care about this way-obscure trinket: in those few copies of the EP containing the pyrite, the seven-inch vinyl bears a different take on the instrumental “Teargarden Theme” than that heard on the other 9,901 copies. Here’s what Corgan said in the relevant portion of the Artisan interview: There are a group of people who want to collect things; I’m one of those types of people. So what we try to do is make sure there’s something about it that’s a little bit more special than just your average release, with the artwork, with the packaging. In the first EP we put a song that is not readily available on a piece of seven-inch vinyl. And then, 99 of them had actually a different version of the song on the vinyl — so if you found sort of the golden-ticket version, you got a different version of the seven-inch. Just things like that, just fun little treasure-hunt kind of things. http://montelds.blogspot.com/2010/09/my-memory-of-chat-with-billy-before.html
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: A 30-second preview of “The Fellowship,” the Smashing Pumpkins’ contribution to the Vampire Diaries soundtrack, is now available for iTunes users
Philosopher: хочу чтобы там был вокал Линды Клубнички , но Корган лошок, не позвал её на студийные сессии.
Ziggy Pop: Andy спасибо, Макс, щас заценю Philosopher пишет: но Корган лошок, не позвал её на студийные сессии. значит она там не нужна
Ziggy Pop: нововолновый синтезатор, хм...
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop мне лучше знать нужна она там или нет
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: нововолновый синтезатор, хм... По такому короткому куску судить, конечно, сложно, но похоже, что Корган решил ненадолго сбросить с себя путы тиргарденовского лоу-фай концепта. Арранжировка Феллоушип пока что мало напоминает недавние релизы. На альбом, наверное, не попадет. Керри пишет: I believe the next SP song will be "The Fellowship" OCT 12th На Амазоне выложили ещё один кусок для предпрослушивания: http://www.amazon.com/Vampire-Diaries-Original-Television-Soundtrack/dp/B003Z39G0O
Zero: Andy пишет: Арранжировка Феллоушип пока что мало напоминает недавние релизы. На альбом, наверное, не попадет. а по мне 100% Teargarden.
Andy: Zero пишет: а по мне 100% Teargarden. Забраковано! Следующий трек!
Zero: Andy пишет: Забраковано! Следующий трек! Макс ну так и есть!!!! тут хоть шути хоть не шути!
Andy: Я подожду полной студийной версии. Хотя концертная мне не нравится.
Zero: Andy пишет: Хотя концертная мне не нравится. вот мне тоже не нравиться! эта явно получше будет! но на сколько неясно пока. но максимум для себя я уже сейчас могу определить на 4 с минусом
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: мне лучше знать нужна она там или нет ну раз ты такой умник, знач дуй в студию к дядюшке Билли, записывать остальные треки для пластинки=) Andy пишет: По такому короткому куску судить, конечно, сложно, но похоже, что Корган решил ненадолго сбросить с себя путы тиргарденовского лоу-фай концепта. по плотности саунда это скорей Freak напоминает. Надеюсь, что путы тиргарденовского лоу-фай концепта Корган сбросит окончательно, ибо заебал уже (извините, но это действительно так) это унитазный саунд. Где жир, бл*? Где, бл*, исполинская мощь? Раньше, даже баллады и всякие сопливые темы, вроде Lily (My One & Only) с альбома 1995 года, у Коргана получались совсем иного свойства. А сейчас что? Ждали и получили Spangled. Ни рыба, ни мясо. Точнее - мсяо. Корган (по поводу Spangled): It’s a pretty song. I really like it a lot. It’s classic Pumpkins. а мой ответ таков: it's an ugly song. I really don't like it. And it's not a classic Pumpkins если уж на то пошло, то классические песни Тыкв - это конец 80-х/начало 90-х, имхо. Zero пишет: тут хоть шути хоть не шути! как перья не цепляй - цыплёнком не станешь (с) Fight Club Andy пишет: подожду полной студийной версии. Хотя концертная мне не нравится. если честно, со второй EP жду только Tom Tom. Freak так себе, фриканутая и ничего более. Spangled - даже не хочу говорить. Fellowship - пока что вызывает недоумение. ну и в общем-то не факт, что Tom Tom попадёт на EP #2. Последняя "живая" версия этой песни скорей похожа на какое-то недоразумение, имхо конечно же, но что поделать, ударные - говно, и против этого не попрёшь. Но сопротивлялся я долго. в целом, из второго EP пока что по-настоящему нравится только обложка=) всё так грустно, аж пох*й.
Ziggy Pop: Pumpkins wrap up second leg of U.S. tour The Smashing Pumpkins completed the second leg of their 2010 U.S. tour last night with a performance in Kansas City. http://www.kansascity.com/2010/09/26/2251099/review-smashing-pumpkins-cake.html Centering around the northwest and southwest of the country, the run featured the debut of some new songs and the return of some old favorites. After a short break, the band will resume touring on October 8, with shows scheduled in Indonesia, Australia, and New Zealand around the same time as the expected release of new track The Fellowship. Billy Corgan has suggested that the band will return to the studio in October, as well. November will see the Pumpkins visit South America and release the second Teargarden EP, The Solstice Bare. No additional U.S. concert dates are currently scheduled, though many American fans will be satisfied by this year's series of 36 U.S. concerts, a stark contrast to 2009's zero.
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan is scheduled to perform Wednesday, September 29th, on the French television program “Ce Soir (ou Jamais!)” (“Tonight (or Never!)”). The show airs at 10:55 p.m. Central European Summer Time. Billy Tweets that he will perform “Spangled” and poses the question, “To beret or not to beret…?” http://www.lezappingdupaf.com/article-les-invites-tele-du-mercredi-29-septembre-57883006.html http://ce-soir-ou-jamais.france3.fr/
Zero: скукота
Ziggy Pop: нашёл что сыграть, н-да
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: нашёл что сыграть, н-да ну как же новая крутая песня!!!!!!! Лысый от нее в восторге ваще и Клубничка тоже .
Ziggy Pop: оно и видно=)
Ziggy Pop: Corgan promotes new book, new music in Paris In Paris to support the release of his coauthored new book Chants Magnétiques, Smashing Pumpkins leader Billy Corgan found time to play some of his music. After performing Teargarden by Kaleidyscope track “Spangled” on France 3 last night (video above), today Corgan delivered a mini-concert of eight songs for an audience at Atout Livre, a bookstore in the 12th arrondissement. His setlist (via SPFC.org) included four Teargarden tracks, ’90s Pumpkins cuts “In the Arms of Sleep,” “To Sheila,” and “Tonight, Tonight,” as well as a brand-new song with the cheeky title “Jesus Needs a Hit.” http://rockerparis.blogspot.com/ - for more on this gig and rock concerts in Paris. Billy Corgan from the Smashing Pumkins playing a new and unreleased song that he composed a few days ago. Performing it for the first time ever @ "A Tout Livre" a book store in Paris. 2010/09/30 - Libraire Atout-Livre; Paris, FR Billy Corgan (solo) Set: •A Stitch in Time •Spangled •A Song for a Son •Freak •In the Arms of Sleep •To Sheila •Jesus Needs a Hit Encore: •Tonight, Tonight вот так
Philosopher: дерьмо, дерьмо, дерьмо
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: Jesus Needs a Hit Лучше бы ты о нас подумал, Уильям.. =)
Zero: Блин Spangled в акустике и в хорошем качестве хорошо звучит. не так убого как в Teargarden варианте. Новая песня не плоха!!! 2 раза послушал очень хорошее впечатление!
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: дерьмо, дерьмо, дерьмо Andy пишет: Лучше бы ты о нас подумал, Уильям.. =) Zero пишет: Новая песня не плоха!!! 2 раза послушал очень хорошее впечатление! так "дерьмо" или "неплоха"? не смотрел/слушал просто ещё пока
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: так "дерьмо" или "неплоха"? не смотрел/слушал просто ещё пока Корган в акустике всегда силен был. и новая песня Jesus Needs a Hit тоже хороша! прям из последнего борохла просто лучик света!
Ziggy Pop: щас гляну наконец-то
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: так "дерьмо" или "неплоха" Средне. Такая же ситуация как и с остальными тиргарден-песнями. Местами проглядывается фирменная мелодика Коргана, но как-то неуверенно.
Ziggy Pop: посмотрел Zero пишет: Корган в акустике всегда силен был да, вот эту Шпонглу и надо было в акустике оставлять, в электрике звучит херовато как-то Zero пишет: и новая песня Jesus Needs a Hit тоже хороша! в акустике вроде ничего ещё, хотя особо не зацепила Andy пишет: Местами проглядывается фирменная мелодика Коргана, но как-то неуверенно. куда ж уверенность-то подевалась?
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: куда ж уверенность-то подевалась? Да хрен знает, не думаю, что это связано с возрастом. Видимо, душевное состояние у него сейчас неподходящее для творчества. В 90-е источником его лирики были сложное детство, любовные неудачи, смерть матери, проблемы внутри группы, а теперь он стал плейбоем, тусит со звездами и в каждом интервью говорит, что счастлив как никогда раньше. Хотелось бы ошибаться, т.к. это звучит жестоко, но счастливый Корган нам не подходит. =)
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: счастливый Корган нам не подходит. =) точно, потому Zwan и не попёр у меня в своё время, слишком солнечный Корган Andy пишет: Видимо, душевное состояние у него сейчас неподходящее для творчества так нафига творить? пусть сидит тогда дома и телевизор смотрит, раз не прёт=) видимо творческие амбиции не дают покоя ему, вот только кое-что изменилось, безвозвратно Andy пишет: теперь он стал плейбоем не поздно ли в 43 года?=))
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: потому Zwan и не попёр у меня в своё время Звон был в порядке, просто на альбом попали далеко не лучшие вещи. Ziggy Pop пишет: так нафига творить? А он не замечает, что то-то не так. Или не хочет замечать. Ziggy Pop пишет: не поздно ли в 43 года?=)) Вспомни старину Хантера! =)
Andy: Злободневное фанмэйд видео на затронутую тему:
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: куда ж уверенность-то подевалась? вопрос на который практически нет ответа. в чем то Andy прав. но все до конца не ясно.
Philosopher: Согласен с Максом. Раньше у Лысого действительно были взлеты и падения, и он был гораздо молод и дух бунтарства в нём бурлил Что видимо нехило отразилось на его психическом здоровье.
Desire: Zero пишет: Блин Spangled в акустике и в хорошем качестве хорошо звучит. не так убого как в Teargarden варианте. Акустический вариант мне тоже понравился! Голос у него в этом варианте отличный.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Злободневное фанмэйд видео фанатские предъявы ;) Andy пишет: В 90-е источником его лирики были сложное детство, любовные неудачи, смерть матери, проблемы внутри группы, а теперь он стал плейбоем ну значит аллилуйя, вылечился Лысый от своих психических недугов, так видимо получается, раз его душевные раны больше не являтся для него стимулом творчества с обнажённым сердцем, оголённые нервы исчезли
Zero: http://pumpkin-machine.ru/
Andy: О, люблю, кстати, читать на сайте комментарии. =)
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: люблю, кстати, читать на сайте комментарии. =)
Zero: Andy пишет: О, люблю, кстати, читать на сайте комментарии. =) я тоже ))))))
Philosopher: о да, столько отжигов мало где найдёшь
Zero: Philosopher пишет: о да, столько отжигов мало где найдёшь да тут тоже самое ))))))))))))))) одни отжиги!!! вон вчера Зигги психанул я сидел читал и ржал)))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: столько отжигов мало где найдёшь Zero пишет: сидел читал и ржал))))))))))) ну не понравилась песня, чтож теперь=) высказал всё, что думал
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: ну не понравилась песня, чтож теперь=) высказал всё, что думал я тебя прекрасно понимаю!!!!!!!!!! но высказался прикольно! стока эмоций было!!!!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: стока эмоций было!!!! первая эмоция была "корган, иди-ка ты на**й", в принципе, с тех пор ничего пока не изменилось=)
Ziggy Pop: Indonesia’s National Anti-Tobacco Coalition has asked the Smashing Pumpkins and other bands to cancel their performances at this weekend’s Java Rockin’Land festival in Jakarta, which is sponsored by tobacco companies. The group says bands performing at the festival will be complicit in raising smoking rates among young people, already a significant problem in Indonesia. Kelly Clarkson, Jamiroquai, and Incubus have faced similar protests. Clarkson performed after canceling her show’s tobacco sponsorship. http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/musicians-under-fire-over-shows-20101007-169kl.html индонезийская национальная анти-табачная коалиция попросила Smashing Pumpkins и другие группы отменить свои выступления в этот уикенд на фестивале Java Rockin’Land в Джакарте
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan discusses the impact of John Lennon’s life and career on his own in a lengthy essay for MusicRadar.com http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/the-smashing-pumpkins-billy-corgan-what-john-lennon-means-to-me-282332 в своём эссе для MusicRadar.com Корган рассуждает о влиянии жизни и карьеры Джона Леннона на свою собственную жизнь
Ziggy Pop: "The Fellowship" on sale at online retailers, no free release yet At least for now, new Smashing Pumpkins track The Fellowship” is indeed exclusive to the Vampire Diaries soundtrack. Online retailers Amazon (99 cents), iTunes ($1.29), and Walmart ($1.24) put the song on sale this morning along with the rest of the soundtrack album. The Fellowship will also appear next month on the second EP from the Pumpkins’ in-progress album Teargarden by Kaleidyscope. It is the seventh song to be released from that project and the first to be offered for sale prior to being offered as a free download. (Freak, another Teargarden cut, can be purchased on iTunes but previously was and still is available for free.)
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: "The Fellowship" on sale at online retailers, no free release yet аху**********************
Desire: Корган сам всё скупил!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: no free release yet пока ещё нет, но скоро видимо да мне, честно, оно и не надо вовсе, хоть фри, хоть за деньги. Корган, соси хрен с майонезом!!!!!
Ziggy Pop: A gossipy article in Melbourne’s Herald Sun newspaper reveals Billy Corgan has written a song called “Pretty Pretty” for his Australian girlfriend Jessica Origliasso’s band The Veronicas next album. Wikipedia says the album has been in the works since January and there is apparently no release date set yet (or even a title). http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/jessica-origliasso-shows-billy-corgan-the-sights/story-e6frf96o-1225938955819
Ziggy Pop: Amazon.co.uk has a 30-second preview of Billy Corgan’s collaboration with Ray Davies for See My Friends. www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0046PUE4W/ref=dm_dp_trk14 30-секундное превью песни-коллаборации Коргана с Рэем Дэвисом
Ziggy Pop: Smashing Pumpkins billed atop December festivals in California The Smashing Pumpkins have announced a third U.S. tour date for the holidays, this one on December 12 at the 12,000-capacity Viejas Arena in San Diego for XETRA-FM’s “Wrex the Halls” festival. My Chemical Romance, Jimmy Eat World and other bands are in support. Tickets are available already through an Internet presale. The Pumpkins will also headline KITS-FM’s “Not So Silent Night” in San Jose on December 10. Tickets go on sale later this week. http://www.91x.com/pages/wrexthehalls_2010 http://live105.radio.com/2010/11/01/not-so-silent-night-2010-lineup/ http://ticketsus.at/streetteamyall?CTY=37&DURL=http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C0045551DB96833 возрадуйтесь: My Chemical Romance and other bands are in support
Philosopher: Зозобра наверное умрет от восторга
Ziggy Pop: пусть оргазмирует от счастья
Ziggy Pop: Ray Davies & Billy Corgan - "All Day & All Of The Night / Destroyer"_2010 320 9 Mb http://rghost.ru/3171685 совместная песня с Рэем Дэвисом
Ziggy Pop: послушал песенку
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: послушал песенку я тоже!!! и забыл!
Ziggy Pop: Zero ты о чём?
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: ты о чём? блин................... забыл )))))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: по крайней мере звук там не Тиагадэнский а больше ничего и не запомнилось
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan's Gold Coast Condo For Rent Billy Corgan, lead singer of the Smashing Pumpkins and all around Chicago music legend, has been trying to sell his Gold Coast condo without much luck. Now, Corgan's condo in a vintage Chicago mansion is available for rent. The 2 bedroom, 2.5 bath home can be yours for a mere $10,000 a month. The condo was initially listed for $5.5 million in September of 2008 and has been reduced to $3.55 million. The condo is located at 1500 N. Astor Place in the vintage Patterson-McCormick mansion, built in 1892. Though it only 2 bedrooms, the second floor condo offers 3,700 square-feet of living space and includes a reception room, library, four wood-burning fireplaces, 10-foot ceilings throughout and a private balcony. Коргна пыталась продать (без особого успеха) свой дом в Чикаго, ценник с 5.5 миллионов $ в 2008 теперь снижен до 3.5 лямов, но пока так никто и не купил его. Особняк построен в 1892 году. На данный момент дом сдаётся за 10.000 $ в месяц. Площадь - 3.700 квадратных футов. Две спальни, гостиная, библиотека, камины и прочие радости.
Ziggy Pop: Corgan speaks at Chicago DJ’s hall of fame induction Last Saturday night, to honor WXRT-FM broadcaster and Smashing Pumpkins fan Terri Hemmert, Billy Corgan gave a carpetbagger-dissing speech at her induction into the National Radio Hall of Fame. An article, photo, and video can be found at the WXRT site. http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/gay/lesbian/news/ARTICLE.php?AID=29376 http://wxrt.radio.com/2010/11/08/radio-hall-of-fame-ceremony/
Desire: Неплохой у лысого домишко.
Zero: Desire пишет: Неплохой у лысого домишко. ага! покупай!!!!!!!
Ziggy Pop: niggaz in da house;)
Zero: With dates already set in San Diego and San Jose, the Smashing Pumpkins have added Los Angeles to their California Christmas itinerary. They have been announced as the headliner for Night 1 of the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas concert on Saturday December 11th at the Gibson Ampitheater in Universal City, a date sandwiched between two previously announced Christmas themed multi-band shows in California. Tickets ($75, not including fees) go onsale Thursday 11/18 at noon PST, but only to members of the “KROQ Street Team” and who are also California residents (or at least have access to a credit card with a California billing address). According to a Flash countdown clock on the KROQ website, the concert will be webcast for those of us stuck in other states and/or countries. Billy Corgan appeared at this show with Mike Garson in 1998, treating the crowd to the only-performed-once Lover and the first performance of Rotten Apples. Billy then joined in with Depeche Mode for the concert closer, Never Let Me Down. Тыквы заявлены хедлайнерами первой ночи KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas. Концерт состоится 11 декабря, и как сообщает баннер на сайте KROQ будет вестись вебтрансляция, которая начнется в 4 PM, по местному времени. надеюсь будет интересно! Корган и акустика это уже хорошо!
Philosopher: я больше чем уверен что Коргна обосрётся
Zero: Philosopher пишет: я больше чем уверен что Коргна обосрётся я больше чем уверен что он придет на концерт один! Свой детсад оставит дома.
Antares: Zero пишет: Свой детсад оставит дома. Что всё таки не помешает ему обосраться..)
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: на сайте KROQ будет вестись вебтрансляция дядя, запиши мне на видеокассету, ок?
Ziggy Pop: Ginger Pooley Gleeful about Baby Former Smashing Pumpkins bassist Ginger Pooley blogs about her baby Talula‘s first steps; confirms that, as previously reported by Hipsters United, she toured with “Glee Live” earlier this year; and adds that she is writing and recording new songs for a forthcoming EP.
Ziggy Pop: Fifteen Years Later Billy Corgan Is Still Seriously Pissed at Pavement Every day it becomes harder and harder for me to take Billy Corgan seriously. He's still really pissed at Pavement, 15 years after Malkmus made the swipe at the Smashing Pumpkins on "Range Life" on '94's Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, and has taken to his twitter page to talk some smack, calling them sell-outs and saying, of a show booked in Brazil where they have to, god forbid, share the bill, "It’s gonna be one of those New Orleans-type funerals. I say that because they represent the death of the alternative dream, and we follow with the affirmation of life part." And "Funny how those who pointed the big finger of 'sell out' are the biggest offenders now. Yawn. they have no love … We’ll be the band up there playing NEW songs because we have the love." My. God. Really? Who's uh, using the Smashing Pumpkins moniker to sell records and tour, even though he’s the only original member left? Who released an exclusive "Target Edition" of that last terrible record Zeitgeist? Who recorded music with mainstream pop star Jessica Simpson? Who really fucking cares? Shouldn’t he focus on his own career? Every idiotic thing that comes out of his mouth further invalidates anything good he ever did. He just takes himself so painfully seriously. Okay, my rant is over. Read more at the Guardian, http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/nov/16/billy-corgan-pavement where the writer shares my sentiments, and a little more background about the original fight and some of what was said in the wake of it all (Malkmus didn’t mean any harm). Watch a video for "Range Life", the source of nearly two decades of Corgan's angst: But this bad blood runs deep. In 1994 Pavement released Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain, an album featuring the single Range Life, in which Stephen Malkmus describes going "out on tour" with Smashing Pumpkins. (Pavement never actually toured with them.) "I don't understand what they mean," he sings, "and I could really give a fuck." Corgan was reportedly so angry that he had Pavement removed from Lollapalooza's bill. "I think it's rooted in jealousy," Corgan said at the time, and, later: "People don't fall in love to Pavement ... they put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them." Malkmus has often tried to downplay the conflict. "A lot of people claim we dissed [Smashing Pumpkins]," he told NY Rock magazine in 1999. "We never did. I only laughed about the band name, because it does sound kind of silly ... I like their songs – well, most of their songs anyway ... I just dissed their status. I never really cared for the rock'n'roll lifestyle or being indie." In 2008, Malkmus told Blender magazine that "Billy's gotten over it".
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: дядя, запиши мне на видеокассету, ок? может тебе еще и спеть и станцевать!!!!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: может тебе еще и спеть и станцевать!!!! сплясуй
Ziggy Pop: Smashing Pumpkins launch South American tour in Buenos Aires Above: Last night at Luna Park After a month away from the stage, the Smashing Pumpkins got back to it on Thursday in Argentina. Some fan discussion of a radio stream of the concert can be found on the SmashingPumpkins.com message board. Fresh additions to the band’s setlist included “By Starlight,” “Heavy Metal Machine” (full mp3: http://www.hipstersunited.com/blog/audio/HMM20101118.mp3 ), and an electric take on “To Sheila” (partial video): ещё фоты: http://germansaez.com/365/322.php
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: сплясуй
Jahua: Ziggy Pop пишет: цитата: Fifteen Years Later Billy Corgan Is Still Seriously Pissed at Pavement "Out on tour with the Smashing Pumpkins. Just nature kids, and they don't have no function. I don't understand what they mean and I could really give a fuck." Мде, что же тут такого страшного?
Andy: Jahua пишет: Мде, что же тут такого страшного? С точки зрения нормального человека - ничего страшного, но ведь у Билли самомнение несколько больших размеров, чем у среднестатистического музыканта.
Ziggy Pop: лысое дитятко негодуэ
Ziggy Pop: This is an interview with Billy on his recent tour in Chile, not to be mistaken for chilly (weather) or chili (dinner). Aren't the fans the most super amazing in Chile? The Chilean people have really taken to having the band tour there this chilly winter to really heat up their hearts. Everywhere I look on Facebook there are amazing Chilean fans praising the band in their native Chilean language which I find most appreciative. And the millions of tagged pictures of them holding and hugging a girl not from Chile, who's personality shines hotter than the Chilean sun- Nicole Fiorintino. It is most amazing. Enjoy the totally on-topic interview.
Zero: Корган зае*** со своими намеками на то что альбомная концепция умерла. если альбом хороший то и слушать его хочется целиком. А конешно, если он говно то максимум что приходиться взять оттуда пару песен а остальные удалить! Как бы это вдолбить в его тупую лысую башку. Как раз тоже самое происходит с его текущим альбомом. у половины народу нет новых 8 песен как мне предпологается, у меня вот тока последние 4 валяются на винте, причем "спангл" можно удалить и забыть, потомучто я не могу слушать эту приметивную песню.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: не могу слушать эту приметивную песню вообще ничего не могу слушать, эпических песен нет, а новые "хиты" не очень как-то греют меня
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan hints that Teargarden by Kaleidyscope may see a “change of direction” in 2011 "i hope everyone is having a great day today. i've got a few more days off before we head to Texas to start this last little bit of touring, and then off for the holidays (yay!). we've got big plans in the works for next year, including new Teargarden plans (different than 2010/change of direction/plans/a positive change)"
Desire: Неужто вбили в лысую голову, что записывать говно нехорошо??
Ziggy Pop: Desire твои молитвы подействовали, не иначе
Zero: Пожалуйста переведите слова лысого для сайта, я хреново перевожу подобные слова.
Ziggy Pop: говорит о больших планах на следующий год, включая новые планы относительно Тиагадэна
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: говорит о больших планах на следующий год, включая новые планы относительно Тиагадэна Зиг я это понял! мне бы для сайта перевести!!! чтоб люди могли прочитать!
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: we've got big plans in the works for next year, including new Teargarden plans (different than 2010/change of direction/plans/a positive change) У нас большой план работ на следующий год. В том числе есть планы относительно альбома (другие, нежели в 2010/смена направления/планов/перемены к лучшему).
Philosopher: пиздит как Троцкий
Ziggy Pop: да что там переводить? Коргна надеется, что у всех замечательный день. Коргна счастлива и довольна. У Коргны выдалось несколько свободных дней перед тем, как они отправятся в Техас, чтобы начать завершающую часть тура, а затем группа уходит на каникулы. we've got big plans in the works for next year, including new Teargarden plans (different than 2010/change of direction/plans/a positive change) у нас большие планы в разработке на следующий год, включая новые Тиагадэн планы (не такие, как 2010/изменение направления/планов/позитивное изменение)
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: пиздит как Троцкий нам не привыкать
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan posts to Facebook a 14-part remembrance of what was supposed to be the Smashing Pumpkins’ last concert ok...Metro, dec 2, 2000...dusting off my brain now x wow...10 years since the 'last' old SP break-up show...how time flies...i'll post some reflections on that show on here later today. hope everyone is having a GREAT day...going to the ocean now to say my prayers and make amends xo pt 1 first thing that comes to mind is that we only had about 6 days to prepare the about 14 or so extra songs that we added to try to make the show both historic and memorable. normally this much work in such a short time would have been met with resistance, but everyone was in good spirits to have the 11 months of touring finally over pt 2 my original plan was to book the metro out for the whole month of January and make one last album, writing songs and recording them live in rehearsal and then playing them at night at the 'shows'...can't remember how many shows we would have done per week? maybe 3 or 4. Iha+ Auf Der Maur hated the idea and said no…. a shame, could have been amazing. band was tight at that point and i was motivated to write more. pt 3 we had the 2nd to last show at The United Center, and we wanted to film that as well. unfortunately the building wanted to charge us (i could be wrong but...) 50,000$ just for the 'right' to film, not counting the actual costs it would have been to film. so there is no video that i know of. if there is it might be… a lone camera. that show was amazing, although we were criticized for opening the show acoustic pt 4 we had been opening with 5 songs acoustic in Europe as a way to set a different tone because each night the audience was thinking they were seeing the band for the last time. there the audiences went with the somber beginning, and so i stupidly assumed that an American audience would go the same way with it. Wrong…! once we finally lit it up with 'glass' theme (song 6) the place went nuts pt 5 for the Metro show itself, we found someone to be a clown in between acts, to hold the sign up announcing each of the 3 parts. what most people don't know is that the kid doing it (a total coincidence) was related to Jonathon Melvoin. i found out before the show, but i took it as a sign that his spirit was with us… in the building that night so i said i was fine with pt 6 we played 38 songs i believe, over 4 hours of music. i had never p[layed that long before, nor have i since. i wasn't even sure my voice would hold up that long, but it did. actually it got stronger as the night went on. the first song was 'rocket', which we were supposed to play after the mellon collie theme intr…o, which was played off a cd. the theme finished, i lit into the opening riff of 'rocket'. pt 7 unfortunately, no one turned off the cd, , so as i was playing i heard 'tonight, tonight' come blaring out of the p.a....classic SP fuck-up for trying to be fancy. the show as i remember was fairly good, but incredibly hot and at about 90 min in the crowd was just totally worn out. i thoughtto myself 'wow, we got a long way to go!' pt 8 act 2 honestly felt like a sad funeral, and people started talking. i felt the whole thing slipping away from me, but i realized that it was all part of the journey of death that we were on. life moves on, and when the show was over i too had to move on. i honestly thought that it would be the last time i would pl…ay most of these songs, and it felt good to let them go. pt 9 act three was designed to bring the energy back up, and it did. the last encore i think was 'silverfuck', which had a lot of improvisation in it. it wasn't all planned out, and i remember thinking of my deceased mother alot. it all came down to 'where was mommy?' in the end of it all, as it begins so does it end. …i turned to look at Jimmy and said 'that's it', and it ended without form best as i remember. pt 10 i broke down on stage crying but i remember being quite embarassed about it. i've thought about that moment many times, and i wish in hindsight that i'd let myself just have a good cry right then and there, because you won't find yourself in a spot like that many times in your life. after we had a little party, p…laying dvd bootlegs of the band on a screen on stage. pt 11 once it was over, there was a shift, so playing the videos felt like watching a car crash again and again. it was overkill for everyone, including me. pictures and Chopin would have been better. i asked where James was, and someone had said he had left, without saying goodbye to me or Jimmy, a real final fuck you… in my eyes. outside of a phone conversation about business in 2001, i haven't seen him since pt 12 one more thing: please stop asking about the show ever coming out (i say this good heartedly). it will come out when the time is right. it should have come out in 2001 but EMI squashed it, and we got the rights back. hopefully it will be put out one day when tall he albums get re-issued. it would make sense for it to come out with the Machina era stuff. pt 13 i think as more time goes by we all should look at SP as having 2 totally different eras, 'old school' and 'new school' or whatever. call it what you want, the SP of 2005-2010 and counting has been a different animal, albeit with similar goals set in a different world. pt 14 'old' SP ended exactly 10 years ago this night, and it ain't ever coming back. from my vantage point, that's a good thing. that band will never sell out and never grow old gracefully (because honestly it couldn't). long live SP 1987-2000 a great fucking band when it was 'on'. and a nightmare when it was 'off'. thanks for checking out these thoughts/memories, love BC thanks everyone for so many kind and positive comments. much appreciated Коргна предаётся воспоминаниям по поводу финального концерта 2 декабря 2000 года. И снова дарит призрачную надежду на издание этого памятного (во всех смыслах) концерта: hopefully it will be put out one day when tall he albums get re-issued. it would make sense for it to come out with the Machina era stuff и вот это понравилось: 'old' SP ended exactly 10 years ago this night, and it ain't ever coming back. from my vantage point, that's a good thing. that band will never sell out and never grow old gracefully (because honestly it couldn't). long live SP 1987-2000 a great fucking band when it was 'on'. and a nightmare when it was 'off' да, Уильям, суровая правда
Philosopher: да, ждать нам этого dvd лет 20 как минимум =)) странно что Иха так поступил, но видимо не только дело в нем.
Zero: тока пизд**** и умеет!!! нет бы что взять и отдать фанам концерт 2000 года всетаки 10 лет прошло! вот уж прекрасный повод.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: нет бы что взять и отдать фанам концерт 2000 года всетаки 10 лет прошло! надо же, какой ты умный, ах********=)) Philosopher пишет: странно что Иха так поступил да это ж давно известный факт, ты что, впервые узнал?
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop ну то что у них конфликт был затяжной это и так понятно, но про то что Иха просто свалил после концерта только сейчас узнал =)
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: long live SP 1987-2000 !
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: надо же, какой ты умный, ах********=)) еще бы! а ты не знал!!!
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: ну то что у них конфликт был затяжной это и так понятно, но про то что Иха просто свалил после концерта только сейчас узнал =) ага, просто тупо ушёл, не сказав никому ни слова, взял да и свалил под шумок, охуенный друг. Andy пишет: ! капитан Очеви не дремлет?=)
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop пишет: ага, просто тупо ушёл, не сказав никому ни слова, взял да и свалил под шумок, охуенный друг. я сомневаюсь что он сделал это специально, вернее не так. Он как раз сделал это специально, наверняка Коргна его в этом туре довел до ручки, так что Иха хотя бы так дверью хлопнул.
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: наверняка Коргна его в этом туре довел до ручки назови хоть один тур из 90-х, когда этого не было? Philosopher пишет: так что Иха хотя бы так дверью хлопнул да он просто зассал перед Могучим Билли
Ziggy Pop: Before leaping into future, Pumpkins look to past for one last round Tonight the Smashing Pumpkins begin their last set of shows in 2010, a seven-stop trip through the American Southwest. The tour starts tonight in Dallas, TX, and ends December 12 in San Diego, CA. Yesterday, Corgan suggested on Facebook that the band will take a break from touring for at least six months and possibly a year, proclaiming somewhat mysteriously that in 2011 the band will “leap fast and lean into the future,” and hinting that future shows may not feature the “old faves” played in 2010. видимо будет воспитывать дрессировать в студии малыша Майки, концерты подождут
Desire: Есть подозрения, что большую часть следующего года мы от Коргана кроме громких речей ничего не услышим. Ну нам не привыкать! :)
Ziggy Pop: Desire пишет: Есть подозрения, что большую часть следующего года мы от Коргана кроме громких речей ничего не услышим. да не-е, пару "супер" EP'шек точно получим
Desire: По п..де мешалкой мы получим! Корган в запой отдыхать собрался.
Ziggy Pop: Desire пишет: По п..де мешалкой мы получим! если она у тебя есть, то ты, несомненно, получишь
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan uses his Facebook account to solicit acoustic requests for tonight’s show in New Mexico, reveal that The Sacred and Profane and Jennifer Ever have been recently rehearsed, good-naturedly joke about never again playing songs written (Mayonaise) or performed (Zeitgeist) by former bandmates. сегодня на концерте в Нью-Мехико возможно сыграют машиновскую The Sacred and Profane и Jennifer Ever (привет концу 80-х!!). По крайней мере Корган сказал, что эти 2 песни have been recently rehearsed. Jennifer Ever по-моему последний раз играли году эдак в 1990-м
Philosopher: хм, то он гонит на Звон и сольное творчество, а тут вдруг старье решил сыграть, шизоид!!
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: шизоид!! всегда так было, шиза фарэва в его случае Philosopher пишет: старье решил сыграть почему бы и нет? А насчёт песни ZWAN "Of A Broken Heart" не вышло, хотя и репетировали её, но в итоге не стали играть, Корган отказался прошедшим летом вон, западные фаны окрестили Коргну уже: Billy Corgan = the Axl Rose of alternative rock ах-хаха-ха=))
Ziggy Pop: по поводу концерта в Нью-Мехико: Billy just posted the setlist on facebook: my love is winter a song for a son today ava adore astral planes eye bullet tarantula spangled to sheila stand inside your love united states bleeding the orchid (solo acoustic) stumbleine (solo acoustic) owata (solo acoustic) 99 floors (solo acoustic) cherub rock zero encore: heavy metal machine encore 2: freak / tonight, tonight не сыграли пока Sacred & Profane и Jennifer Ever, но, возможно, ещё исполнят на других выступлениях, не зря ведь репетировали
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop не надо мне разъяснять эти очевидные вещи =)) Коргна бы не надорвался играть и сольные вещи и из репертуара Звон, а не пиздеть что что про тех smashing pumpkins, которых нет со 2 декабря 2000 года
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: что что чё?
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop колпачО
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: Коргна бы не надорвался играть и сольные вещи и из репертуара Звон а нафига нужны песни Zwan в туре SP?=)
brenorit:
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop я уже сказал всё, что считал нужным
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher тот, кто перед тобой написал, видимо тоже=)
Ziggy Pop: а вообще всё это бред конечно, Zwan, solo, etc. Хотя мне уже всё равно. Лучше ведь не будет.
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop может это дед мороз?
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: может это дед мороз? гитарой в нос!!
Ziggy Pop: Interview with the then-uninjured Nicole Fiorentino, September 8. Nicole Fiorentino of The Smashing Pumpkins discusses her bass rig with Tim McKee ************************************* Billy Corgan: Knee injury leaves bassist Nicole Fiorentino’s ability to perform with the Smashing Pumpkins in Phoenix a “gametime decision.” коленку повредила
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: Nicole Fiorentino самая страшненькая басистка Тыкв )))))))))
Antares: У них, по-мойму, вообще басистки идут по ниспадающей - каждая последующая более стрёмная, чем предыдущая. Впрочем, то же самое могу сказать и про остальных членов коллектива..)
dzeen: ok, have to go soundcheck now...we are gonna work up 'pastichio medley', 'mayonaise', and 'spiteface' for tonght's show! whew!! BC via Facebook, 4 часа назад
Zero: dzeen пишет: 'pastichio medley' нихрена себе!
Jahua: SPITEFACE!!
Philosopher: ну если они захерачат весь pastichio medley, то Коргна - бог
Andy: Ребят, это был сарказм.
Philosopher: ok, have to go soundcheck now...we are gonna work up all my songs for tonght's show! BC via Facebook, 2 часа назад
Andy: Почитал его фейсбук. Беда у мужика.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: самая страшненькая басистка Тыкв ))))))))) точняк, хуже ещё пока не было=) но, возможно, всё впереди Antares пишет: то же самое могу сказать и про остальных членов коллектива..) есть только один член в этом коллективе, это Могучий Член Билли остальные - всего лишь дешёвые фаллоиммитаторы из средней руки секс-шопа dzeen пишет: ok, have to go soundcheck now...we are gonna work up 'pastichio medley', 'mayonaise', and 'spiteface' for tonght's show! whew!! BC via Facebook, 4 часа назад Zero пишет: нихрена себе! Jahua пишет: SPITEFACE!! не верю Philosopher пишет: ну если они захерачат весь pastichio medley, то Коргна - бог Коргна и так бог в своей собственной вселенной, населённой страшными фаллоиммитаторами какие милые мысли у тебя, фрэнда, но, это всё сказка, хотя, признаюсь, на секунду мне захотелось бы всё это услышать вживую. Но не верю всё равно.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Ребят, это был сарказм. +100, ну вот, хоть кто-то трезво оценил ситуёвину=) Я ж говорил: "Не верю". 'Cause it sounds too good to be true. Philosopher пишет: ok, have to go soundcheck now...we are gonna work up all my songs for tonght's show! BC via Facebook, 2 часа назад all my songs? неужто весь бэк-каталог будут репетировать, начиная с 1988 года? ах-хаха-ха-ха-ха=))) Andy пишет: Беда у мужика. слушаю внимательно
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: слушаю внимательно Да там он там в каждом сообщении пытается уверить самого себя, что все в порядке и что старые фэны просто не хотят постичь величия нового материала и живут в прошлом. Почитай, буквально в каждом сообщении..
Desire: Вы всё не верите, что Биллушка е..лся на всю голову? А мне новая басисточка нравится больше Джинджер
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Да там он там в каждом сообщении пытается уверить самого себя, что все в порядке и что старые фэны просто не хотят постичь величия нового материала и живут в прошлом. Почитай, буквально в каждом сообщении.. ага, читал ночью на работе блядь, иди нахуй, Билли. Я живу в прошлом значит с его точки зрения, ну чтож, i'm fine, это его мнение. И он имеет право его высказать. А я имею право не согласиться с ним. Все довольны, всё прекрасно. Только вот одно мне не даёт покоя. Тот факт, что Корган сейчас просто пытается сделать хорошую мину при плохой игре, имхо. Andy пишет: величия нового материала пока что никакого величия не слышу. Может быть там через года 2 и появится чего, а может и нет. Но на данный момент - всё эти его разговоры о величии - хуита. Точнее всё это так называемое величие - мнимое. Desire пишет: новая басисточка нравится больше Джинджер круче Д'арси никого не будет на басу у Лысого, ИМХО. вот где секс был и эппил. Особенно в туре Adore.
Ziggy Pop: Smashing Pumpkins do the legend proud at casino Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins perform at Wild Horse Pass Casino's Ovations Live! Showroom on Wednesday, Dec. 8, 2010 by Ed Masley - Dec. 9, 2010 10:59 AM The Arizona Republic The cult of Billy Corgan haters may not want to grant him much of anything at this point. But if Corgan feels the need to try and keep the Smashing Pumpkins name and legacy alive without involving anyone who helped him build that legacy in the long-gone days of "Siamese Dream," at least he did his best to do the legend justice Wednesday night, Dec. 8, at Wild Horse Pass casino, investing himself in a crowd-pleasing marathon set. The Pumpkins' leader may have parted ways with drummer Jimmy Chamberlin over the issue of what constitutes an "oldies act" and whether Smashing Pumpkins should become one. But that didn't stop him from treating the crowd to inspired performances of such Modern Rock radio staples as "Cherub Rock," "Today," "Bullet with Butterfly Wings," "Tonight, Tonight," "Ava Adore" and "Stand Inside Your Love" in the course of a two-hour set whose more explosive moments made it feel as much like 1994 as any music could. He even played "Disarm," on acoustic guitar, after telling the crowd, "You're supposed to play all the songs you're supposed to play. But I don't want to play all the songs I'm supposed to play. So I didn't think I wanted to play this song tonight, but I really appreciate you listening to our show tonight. We've played in front of a lot of audiences. . . . Audiences are different all over the world. But there's one thing that matters most to us, which is the respect to actually listen to what we're doing, so thank you so much for that tonight. I really appreciate it. And I'd like to dedicate this song to all of you." It's not unusual, of course, for an artist to try to make the audience feel special. But this didn't feel like showmanship or pandering. It felt like Corgan being genuinely moved by the reception he'd been getting to a set that wasn't shy about calling attention to his latest work. They'd opened with "The Fellowship" from "Teargarden by Kaleidyscope Vol. 2: The Solstice Bare," setting the tone for the concert with a chorus that demanded, "Are you with us or against us tonight?" And then, after giving nostalgia its due with a raucous performance of "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," it was back to more recent material with the intense garage-rock swagger of "Tarantula" from 2007's "Zeitgeist" album and two psychedelic treasures from "Teargarden" - "My Love is Winter," which featured a dual guitar lead with second guitarist Jeff Schroeder after each guitarist took his own lead, and the Zeppelin-does-Donovan ballad, "A Song for a Son." By the time he sang "I used to be a little boy" on "Disarm," he'd made his way through several other recent songs, from the punkish abandon of "As Rome Burns" to "Spangled" (which featured a finger-picked guitar part that echoed the Beatles' later work), the upbeat '60s pop of "Tom Tom" and "United States" (again, from "Zeitgeist"). The new kids definitely earned their keep, with 20-year-old drummer Mike Byrne attacking the kit with authority and a thundering approach that said his favorite drummer was John Bonham long before they'd made their way around to covering Led Zeppelin's "Moby Dick" (although everyone leaving the stage so he could do a proper solo may have been a bit much). And Nicole Fiorentino brought a heavy bass groove to such raucous highlights as "United States" and "Freak." What really made the concert feel like something special, though, was Corgan, who, despite his reputation as a temperamental artist, proved a warm, contagious, funny onstage presence - interacting with his bandmates, grinning like a schoolboy, flicking his guitar picks to the balcony and joking about how the next day's reviews would say Corgan had "lectured" the crowd about crowd-surfing during a rambling, hilarious monologue about crowd-surfing fans in their 30-s. "It's not a Pearl Jam video, you know what I mean?" Corgan joked. "It's 2010." It is 2010. And that's where Corgan's head and heart are. But on Wednesday night, at least, it seemed as though he'd made at least some kind of peace with the days when those fans who'd come to see a hero of their teenage days could crowd-surf like nobody's business.
Ziggy Pop: Interview of Corgan loved by Corgan In a tweet this morning (http://twitter.com/Billy/status/12905725994991617#), Billy Corgan expressed his ardor for an interview conducted with him last week and published in full today by George Varga of the San Diego Union-Tribune. Varga asks about Corgan’s new-defunct website Everything from Here to There, his still-going album Teargarden by Kaleidyscope, what it takes to be in the Smashing Pumpkins, and more. Following is an excerpt — better read in context, but that stands alone well enough — about the separation of artwork and artist: [George Varga:] Pablo Picasso was, by all accounts, a total jerk who treated most people like dirt. Does that make his art less great or notable? Should we separate the art from the person who made it? [Billy Corgan:] I think the art is the only thing that matters. I’m not saying the life of the artist shouldn’t be examined. But to put the life of the artist as the equal of the art is coming from the audience or the ‘perceiver,’ not from people who really understand art. Let’s say you and I are taking a hike and I’ve just finished telling you what a horrible person I am. But at the end I tell you a parable that is the greatest parable you’ve ever heard. Does it diminish the parable because I’m a piece of [shit]? No. It might have more value because I’m a piece of [shit]. The modern world is very focused on negative aspects of the artist, because it’s part of some marketing campaign. When the personality is more important, you have a problem; the work will not hold up with time, but you get what you pay for. If you need to believe that Radiohead would hang out with you at Starbucks because they’re good guys – and I’m not picking on them — if that’s what you need (to believe), I won’t argue with it. But I don’t get that. I think it’s really juvenile. I’m in the Duke Ellington school of thought, that there’s good music and bad music. I don’t know what kind of guy Howlin’ Wolf was, but I know the kind of guy I think he was. текст интервью полностью: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/dec/09/billy-corgan-complete-q/
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Да там он там в каждом сообщении пытается уверить самого себя, что все в порядке и что старые фэны просто не хотят постичь величия нового материала и живут в прошлом. Почитай, буквально в каждом сообщении.. вот, кстати, по сабжу, пару дней назад вычитал: before twitter, i didn't realize how much of a goon he was. now i can't stand the fucker. what a piece of shit. fuck him and fuck his shitty band. твиттер не фэйсбук конечно, но разницы-то никакой
Ziggy Pop: очередная порция "сказок" от Лысого: On Facebook, Billy Corgan mentions old studio takes on “Gossamer,” “99 Floors,” and “Peace and Love,” and discusses “the inevitable Zeitgeist reissue” amongst other future releases: “The ‘plan’ is to line up everything business wise so that EVERYTHING substantial and worthy of release would see the light of day.” я ж говорил, есть студийная версия Госсамера в природе, есть переиздание Zeitgeista тоже звучит интересно
Ziggy Pop: as for 99 floors/peace and love and others from that time there are live solo studio demo versions recorded in Sweden just after the SF residency. they sound really good and could easily be added to/overdubed. those would see the light of day when the inevitable Zeitgeist re-issue comes out. i get full rights back to Zwan/Future Embrace/Zeit in about 4 years Zwan would be first up. 60+ unreleased songs. 4 года ждать, ну да, as usual насчёт 60 песен ничего не буду комментировать BC: we have discussed recording Gossamer for Teargarden, but my guess is it probably won't happen as it is essentially seen by me as a Zeitgeist song. there is an aborted Zeitgeist sessions versions that is kinda cool, albeit rough and unfinished Госсамер... жду
Philosopher: сколько сказок то сразу!
Ziggy Pop: Billy: I heard Jimmy Chamberlin's band has a new moniker: 'Skysaw'. Cool name. http://twitter.com/#!/Billy/status/13315880251293696
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: очередная порция "сказок" от Лысого: На HU еще не все перечислено, в фейсбуке он столько всего наобещал. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) FROM Brad White My favorite songs were from the Spun soundtrack during this time. Thank you for them. BC: that i do own the rights to. and also my unreleased ChicagoKid project (80? songs). Matt Walker is currently putting that together with a documentary. so i could see putting out Spun soundtrack music after the rele…ase of ChicagoKid. no timetable on release though. TBK is #1 priority. i'm guessing there are probably at least 150+ unreleased songs...could be more. believe it or not i actually don't know how many there are. working on it all, with patience. i'd say the next 7 years should see the release of a ton of stuff NEW and OLD. but it ll starts with support of the new because this tells the bus…iness that there is energy there for SP in general. PLUS some of what we have unreleased is valuable. not just valuable to hear, but also valuable marketing to draw in the crowd that checked out with SP in 1996. if they come back to re-check out a mellon collie re-issue, it gives us a fresh opportunity to introduce them to the new music. we are working to make the new and the old work together to not mess up one or the other. the old should not be at the expense of moving the band forward, and moving forward should not be at the expense of properly honoring the past. all in balance, all helping make the best possible energy around SP world. but make no mistake, Teargarden is the absolute #1 without a doubt priority of SP. everything else is a distant second to that. i would LOVE a proper form to start putting out remastered vinyl, unreased tracks, unseen concerts, and so on. there is alot to get at, as long as the right form to put it out is available. i own all the ZWan rights, so yes, i can play those songs say on an acoustic tour if i wanted. i just don't have the right to release on my own the Zwan stuff until around 2014
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: не все перечислено о, читаю, ухмыляюсь Andy пишет: TBK is #1 priority FUCK THAT Andy пишет: there are probably at least 150+ unreleased songs...could be more. believe it or not i actually don't know how many there are. дай людям, всё что есть, и не трахай мозг, Уильям Andy пишет: i'd say the next 7 years should see the release of a ton of stuff NEW and OLD звучит грандиозно Andy пишет: but it ll starts with support of the new звучит уныло Andy пишет: if they come back to re-check out a mellon collie re-issue уже и Mellon Collie "переиздавать" он собрался, надо же, ну каков молодец. Пиздёжь!!! Andy пишет: i just don't have the right to release on my own the Zwan stuff until around 2014 Andy пишет: there is alot to get at, as long as the right form to put it out is available короче лет 5 ещё подождём
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop пишет: короче лет 5 ещё подождём да ты оптимист =)
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: да ты оптимист =) это стёб, без смайлов просто а вообще да, я по жизни оптимист=) Только вот в данном случае ничего особо не жду, выйдет - значит хорошо, нет - да и по хрену тогда вообще на его обещания. Он ими паству кормит свою уже последние 10 лет, чего там только не было=)) Госсамер вот нужен только позарез
Philosopher: лучше бы он занялся сразу переизданием раритетов, старья и прочего. новые песни всё равно 90 % поклонников нахрен не нужны
Ziggy Pop: да ты что, он же сейчас пишет исключительно шедевры, никак не меньше!!
Andy: Philosopher пишет: новые песни всё равно 90 % поклонников нахрен не нужны Ты знаешь, я все еще надеюсь.. =))
Philosopher: ну пусть всё это останется на совести Лысого
Jahua: SPITEFACE!?
outoftime: Philosopher пишет: новые песни всё равно 90 % поклонников нахрен не нужны очень даже нужны ! хотя до уровня SD и MCIS и ADORE как до луны , но это же ,ёбтать, риэл джэньюин Зэ Смэшинг Пампкинз и mr. Corgna - итс бэйсик & исэншл парт Откуда блять критиков то развелось стока ? Откуда тинейджерский ангст у дядьки за 40 ?
Desire: Госсамер, не жду. Пускай приятной мечтой останется, хоть бы Лысый и эту песню не спустил в унитаз.
Coma: outoftime пишет: риэл джэньюин Зэ Смэшинг Пампкинз и mr. Corgna - итс бэйсик & исэншл парт outoftime пишет: Откуда блять критиков то развелось стока ? Откуда тинейджерский ангст у дядьки за 40 ? ха-ха-ха-хаа
Philosopher: Корган - Орган
Andy: outoftime пишет: риэл джэньюин Зэ Смэшинг Пампкинз и mr. Corgna - итс бэйсик & исэншл парт ya nihuya ne poniyal!!!111adin
Andy: Desire пишет: хоть бы Лысый и эту песню не спустил в унитаз Её спустит Майк.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Её спустит Майк. уже журчит вода в толчке и крутится водоворотом
Ziggy Pop: outoftime пишет: Откуда тинейджерский ангст у дядьки за 40 ? мне не нужен тин-энгст в его 43 года, мне нужны цепляющие за душу песни
Philosopher: вы не забывайте что Коргна на пути духовного просветления, он счастлив и поэтому Ziggy Pop пишет: уже журчит вода в толчке и крутится водоворотом
Desire: Корган работает на новым сеплом
Ziggy Pop: Desire пишет: Корган работает на новым семплом о, это гениально!! давайте поапплодируем все дружно ему!! pure geniuos mind
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Ты знаешь, я все еще надеюсь.. =)) не ты один ================== Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) one other thing i noticed though is that although the 'classics' are always well received, the younger audience seems to be less invested in them than the previous generations before them. this is even more reason for us to push forward into the future and fast. the signs are all there that the moment has come...sink or swim! очередной бред Лысого
Ziggy Pop: KROQ to webcast Pumpkins set tonight Today is the first of two days for the “Almost Acoustic Christmas” festival sponsored by Los Angeles’s KROQ-FM. The Smashing Pumpkins, scheduled to appear onstage at 10:45pm PT, will close out the evening. Video of the concert is being streamed via the KROQ website: http://kroq.radio.com/2010/12/08/live-webcast-21st-annual-kroq-almost-acoustic-christmas/
Ziggy Pop: Almost Acoustic Christmas: “Eye” (featuring backup vocals from the Veronicas) http://yhbt.net/tsp20101211.dab-eye.mp3 “Heavy Metal Machine” http://yhbt.net/tsp20101211.dab-hmm.mp3
Ziggy Pop: First half of Almost Acoustic Christmas rocks although given how many people trickled away by the end of Billy Corgan & Co.’s 11-song closing turn, I suspect the jury may still be out regarding the Pumpkin King soldiering on with new, considerably less powerful players. You can understand the reluctance two decades after the real Chicago thing debuted. At least when he closed up shop the last time, with a pair of shows two years ago at this same venue, his attempt to pull a Pretenders still had Jimmy Chamberlin on drums, plus all of No Doubt’s auxiliary filling in the blanks. Now Corgan is backed by Mike Byrne, a ham-fisted drummer of little finesse, and flanked by what seem like junior apprentices: guitarist Jeff Schroeder, merely a pale imitation of his boss, and bassist Nicole Fiorentino, functioning as eye candy more than anchor (yet she doesn’t have half as much mystique as woebegone D’Arcy Wretzky.) It left me perplexed, though their chunky stew can still coalesce into some hearty rocking when Corgan bothers to light a fire under it. Yet, apart from his indelible melodies and occasional Fender flourishes, this doesn’t even sound like the Pumpkins anymore, which I bet is his point; he’s rarely seemed in a better mood on stage, so maybe he’s finally achieving some Zen autonomy at last with this lineup. I’m trying to reserve judgment, see where this Pumpkins 3.0 (4.0? higher?) might lead. But so far it feels too much like a cheat: “Bullet with Butterfly Wings” was recklessly rushed (and thus less impactful), “Tonight, Tonight” had no sense of whirlwind romantic urgency, and “Today” was borderline amateurish. And still I wish they’d selected more songs like those. That’s my other beef: when initially presenting a newly carved Pumpkins, stuff its guts with as many Big Ones as possible. I know Corgan insists on chasing his idiosyncratic muse — it isn’t his style to leave off “Tarantula” and “Stand Inside Your Love” to make room for more popular fare like “Disarm” and “Cherub Rock” and “Zero,” all missing here. But this time that move was a mistake, and he failed to maintain audience interest. I wanted to leave after his rendition of Fleetwood Mac’s “Landslide,” too; it’s the only thing I’ll remember from this set this time next year. http://soundcheck.ocregister.com/2010/12/12/first-half-of-almost-acoustic-christmas-rocks/40774/
Andy: Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 5: some people left early, which was strange because that is almost never the case with us. i honestly felt like it was yet another indication that the past is quickly fading, and it is time for us to go over the cliff with new SP, which is honestly really exciting. when i started in 1985, the idea was you did what …you had to do to make sure people weren't leaving. http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=167288786640288&id=111014628968088 Мне вот интересно, он действительно так думает или только хочет так думать?
Zero: для неандертальцев переведите, че он там несет то? я его речи никогда почти не понимаю! он словно не на английском пишет )))))))
Andy: Корган удивлен, что на Acoustic Christmas во время его выступления многие покидали зал. Он думает, что это из-за того, что старые песни никому не интересны и нужно сконцентрироваться на новых.
Zero: он бы лучше у людей поспрашивал!!! чем делать свои тупые выводы! вон Хеви метал машин вообще невозможно слушать драйва нет, и эта нуднятина длиться еще 10 минут! естественно все свалют!
Philosopher: Не устаю поражаться безумию Коргны
Antares: Andy пишет: Мне вот интересно, он действительно так думает или только хочет так думать? Да он реально ёбнутый ))
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) in 2011 we are going up up up. trust me on that. we will build it to be a rocket *wink wink* and we'll all stand back (band included) and see if it has enough energy in it to escape gravity. there is nothing left to do in my eyes. but i honestly feel we are gonna make it. this year has given us the blueprint. so thank you for that. it has been really illuminating.
Zero: Antares пишет: Да он реально ёбнутый )) !!!
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) э2011 we are going up up up Мне больше понравились предыдущие посты. Для Коргана концерт в Сан Диего стал очень неприятной неожиданостью. =) Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) thoughts on san diego and last SP show of 2010: the good news is that the show was sold out, with a great bill (amberlin/jimmy eat world/bad religion/my chemical romance), and from what i could hear a revved up crowd. the bad news is for whatever reason we didn't click with a lot of the audience. no, we play a lot of s…hows, so normally i could tell you why things didn't go well. but... Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 2: for the life of me i don't know what went wrong that it ended up with us playing to a half full house by the end. we played well, nothing went wrong that i could tell. if you want me to take a guess, it goes back to what i've been putting out there, which is that the MAINSTREAM alternative crowd has become more o…f a one song at a time/pop crowd and less about the bands. now that doesn't mean everyone. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 3: there were still thousands of SP fans in the stands at the end, and to them (if you were there) i am really grateful you stuck around. but there is an apathy in the air in America like nothing i've ever seen in my life. when i was a nobody opening for other bands at least there was a anti-something to key off of.… we've had some incredible shows this year, so this isn't a trend... Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 4: but it is an indicator of a wider belief that what made alt-rock so vital in the 90s has been officially co-opted in something that resembles very little of the violent, passionate spirit of that era. i heard a lot of passion for the other bands, so obviously they are getting it right where we must be getting it …wrong. and don't tell me it is about the old band. it is a bigger thing. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 5: like i said on stage last night, i only have myself to blame. i have held onto the dream for a lot longer than most, and the brilliance of most of them is that they knwow there is nothing to fight for so they just give the people what they want. hence all these older bands playing hits and old albums. yes, we pla…yed hits, i am not ignorant to what we were trying to breach/reach. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 6: the station did a brilliant job of hyping up the show, and i appreciate the time they gave me to talk live on the air. and there were people in the seats when we walked on. so i will take the responsibility on this and say that it is just as much me as it is them. there are moments in your life where the light ju…st goes out of your eyes and you say 'enough of that.' Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 7: i don't mean enough of SP, or enough of the radio station, or enough of the fans. the fans for the most part in my musical life have been incredible. the radion stations still make SP one of the most played bands in alternative radio. and i feel incredible supported by Jeff, Nicole, and Mike. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 8: so when i say i've had enough, i've had enough of trying to convince someone of something i shouldn't have to convince them of any longer. i need to be confident enough in my own heart to move on in every way to where i belong right now; musically, spiritually, energetically, personally. the beauty is the only op…tion left is to move forward and to never look back. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 9: yes i should be more self-assured or putting up a better front, but i've never been shy about being perfectly honest about my imperfections (and also where i think i we us matter. i don't mean to say and don't read into this as some sort of declaration that i'll never play another old song, blah blah. it is down …to the 'why' i am doing what i'm doing that i speak of. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 10: i have taken SP in all sorts of directions, often at the same time: crass, commercial, pop, destructive, anti-establishment, difficult for the sake of being difficult, grand, epic, and so on. i've always had my reasons. since i came back in 2005/2006 to the idea of what it means to do 'this', i tried to find a m…ore gentle balance between band vision and positive fan desire. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 11: however, the fractured world we live in doesn't allow anything to shine very bright. each success compartmentalized and devoured till it bears little connection to it's original intention. hence the aptly titled lady gaga album 'fame monster'. it is a monster, and we all get killed in the end by our own monsters. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 12: i didn't start off at 14 years of age to become anything but a musician. i barely recorgnize the man most people see me as. i mean, i get why i am villified and mocked, i am in on the joke even though most would have you believe i am some kind of village idiot. it takes a smart man to know when he doesn't really know what he needs the most of. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 13: so what do i need more than anything? love. not love from a fan, or from a critic, or from an enemy. just love. love given simply because it is there to be given. my greatest crime has been to not have taken enough time to be kind to myself. ok, so i've thrown myself into the fire? now what? Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 14 so i want to thank you all for this incredible year of growth, understanding, and yes, LOVE. 2011 is going to be the beginning of something spectacular. i am not attached to the outcome, and neither should you be! you have your facebook page and i have mine. you have your world to run and i have mine to destroy. …it is time to put it all on the pyre and say it has been a good run lads and ladies. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) pt 15 in 2011 SP goes all the way to the bottom and we'll see what we come back up with. we thank you all for listening; good, mad, bad, or indifferent. we are all God's children, working as mirrors to understand what we need most to move forward (or backwards). ALL in service. x ♥ one love BC Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) i've read some of your comments, and i want to say thank you for the kind words of encouragment. so let me be clear about one thing that maybe doesn't come across in what i've said prior: i haven't lost faith. in fact, i've never had more faith ever ever. if i didn't have the faith i have i wouldn't be willing to be op…en and honest about these things. faith is in knowing the road you are on is the right one. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) teargarden is all about trusting the road you are on. even if you listen to the songs chronologically, they start in another time (1960s? 1970s?). an era where i came into my own consciousness, and so i started there on my journey. freak evokes sp of another time, the fellowship the future. but all of it has a certain …emotional displacement, the eyes of the observer as opposed to the voice from within. Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) to bring back SP has been all about faith. one concert isn't gonna kill me. it isn't about san diego. san diego has been great to me all these years! it is more about the voice of the artist versus the incredibly apathy of a world going crazy stewing in it's own apathy. the tempature is going up up up. few will have th…e courage to call it like they see it. so party on! LOL Начал за упокой, кончил за здравие, попутно обвинив весь мир в непонимании. Похоже на агонию. И самый смак: Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) FROM Steve Karassavidis billy... if possible... play more like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DETQYXejrZ0 and not like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ8_dswW-18&NR=1 see the difference? u used to have so much fucking energy and power in your performan...ce and voice... wtf happened to that? ya gotta bring that… back man... its what we all want FROM BC: fuck you. boring
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Похоже на агонию зверь умирает и бьётся в предсмертных конвульсиях
Philosopher: шизоид продолжает агонизировать
Zero: Andy пишет: FROM BC: fuck you. boring да гениально!!! во что превратился наш лысенький!!!!
Ziggy Pop: грустно всё это читать было на самом деле Andy пишет: it is more about the voice of the artist versus the incredibly apathy of a world going crazy stewing in it's own apathy. он действительно так считает видимо
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: он действительно так считает видимо Я надеюсь, что нет.
dzeen: FROM BC: fuck you. boring that's my boy!
Zero: dzeen пишет: that's my boy! каким еще плохим словам ты его научил?)))))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: Я надеюсь, что нет. мне, честно говоря, уже просто тупо похуй. Ты, конечно, можешь надеяться на что угодно, но только вот Коргна вряд ли от этого изменит своё нынешнее мировоззрение. Andy пишет: FROM BC: fuck you. boring вот до чего он опустился, тупо посылает нахуй фанов. Молодец, так держать, Уильям, ты - "настоящий пример" для подражания, браво. Но правда всё равно не на твоей стороне, имхо. Ты просто делаешь хорошую мину при плохой игре. Пускаешь пыль в глаза, не то что поклонникам, а прежде всего самому себе, засрал свой собственный мозг какой-то псевдо-идеаллистической хуергой про новые песни и движение вперёд. Блядь, Машина - это было движение вперед, Адор - это было движение вперед. Сейчас нет никакого движения, тупо всё стоит на месте, никак не развиваясь, вообще. И при этом он с постоянной периодичностью пытается вдалбливать в головы всем тот факт, что он, мол крутой, тьфу. Уже просто не смешно. Мне, откровенно говоря, надоело наблюдать за всем этим цирком. умри, Лысый fuck off & die, Billy
dzeen: согласен с Зигги - со всем, кроме первого тезиса. "туда" Корган посылал всех всегда. Блядь, Машина - это было движение вперед, Адор - это было движение вперед да. продолжая твою мысль, teargarden - это разворот через двойную сплошную. как это карается, сам знаешь. а bc надел синее ведро и пытается положить на всех болт.
Philosopher: teargarden это разворот в жопу Коргана, всё просто
Ziggy Pop: я забиваю на Тыкв, гори они огнём. всё.
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: Ты просто делаешь хорошую мину при плохой игре. Пускаешь пыль в глаза, не то что поклонникам, а прежде всего самому себе, засрал свой собственный мозг какой-то псевдо-идеаллистической хуергой про новые песни и движение вперёд. That's it!
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: забиваю на Тыкв, гори они огнём. всё. yep
Ziggy Pop: вообще в тему картинка, отлично надо было, чтоб на концерте в Сан-Диего вообще весь зал вышел вон, может тогда в башке Коргны шевельнулись бы несколько извилин на предмет того, почему же новые песни никто не любит. Глупая старая тыква. Он не видит дальше кончика собственного носа, тупо не замечает очевидных вещей. устал наблюдать за этим маразмом маякните, когда этот лысый псих выпустит что-нибудь действительно достойное
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: маякните, когда этот лысый псих выпустит что-нибудь действительно достойное Оке, в течение ближайших 10 лет я, возможно, скину тебе ссылку на Метро 2000.
Ziggy Pop: Andy пишет: в течение ближайших 10 лет бери 20, чего уж там;) Andy пишет: скину тебе ссылку на Метро 2000. замётано
Ziggy Pop: On Monday and Tuesday The Smashing Pumpkins came in to finish recording the next two Teargarden by Kaleidyscope songs. Billy, Nicole and Mike recorded backing vocals that sound amazing. вау, как круто, теперь малыш Майки ещё и запел, стопудово хит будет, налетай
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: that sound amazing. мне вот эти слова нравяться! а потом в песне окажеться саунд наподобии Spangled, вот будет клево!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: маякните, когда этот лысый псих выпустит что-нибудь действительно достойное когда это произойдёт, вряд ли к тому времени останется хоть один наблюдатель этого маразма Zero время пришло: закрывай форум, чЁ ;)
Antares: Ziggy Pop пишет: вау, как круто, теперь малыш Майки ещё и запел, стопудово хит будет, налетай Вы чо, не поняли? Майки теперь новая звезда, а коргна у него на подпевках будет, ну и на гитарке там подшпиливать =)
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: мне вот эти слова нравяться! а потом в песне окажеться саунд наподобии Spangled, да, у него всё в последнее время эмэйзинг и вау, а на деле потом оказывается хуита Zero пишет: вот будет клево!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! однозначно!! я уже обратился в местную контору, они из бронзы памятник Коргне отольют (в самое ближайшее время) за такие великие заслуги Coma пишет: когда это произойдёт, вряд ли к тому времени останется хоть один наблюдатель этого маразма + 500 Coma пишет: время пришло: закрывай форум, чЁ ;) не, он ещё верит в Светлое Будущее Коргны;)
Zero: Coma пишет: время пришло: закрывай форум Ziggy Pop пишет: не, он ещё верит в Светлое Будущее Коргны;) нельзя сейчас закрывать!!!! надо донести это до масс Ziggy Pop пишет: Ты просто делаешь хорошую мину при плохой игре. Пускаешь пыль в глаза, не то что поклонникам, а прежде всего самому себе, засрал свой собственный мозг какой-то псевдо-идеаллистической хуергой про новые песни и движение вперёд. Блядь, Машина - это было движение вперед, Адор - это было движение вперед. Сейчас нет никакого движения, тупо всё стоит на месте, никак не развиваясь, вообще.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: нельзя сейчас закрывать!!!! надо донести это до масс на Главной повесь, ёпт
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: он ещё верит в Светлое Будущее Коргны;) Ziggy Pop пишет: наш админ псих=))) есть такое;)) Zero пишет: нельзя сейчас закрывать!!!! надо донести это до масс а массам это надо? =))
Philosopher: Ziggy Pop пишет: на Главной повесь, ёпт + миллиард! Коргна, убирайся вон с планеты Земля!!!
Ziggy Pop: Philosopher пишет: убирайся вон с планеты Земля!!! и разверзлись небеса, и грянул гром, и молнии засверкали дичайше, словно жареный апельсин, например солнце на восходе, и затопала Коргна ногами, дико завращала безумными глазами, плюнула самому себе на лысину (не забыв после растереть руками) и создала свою собственную Вселенную. Где всё хорошо, идеально и безопасно. А для тех, кто туда не вписывается, у Коргны уже есть даже ответ: fuck you. boring
Coma: Ziggy Pop пишет: и затопала Коргна ногами, дико завращала безумными глазами, плюнула самому себе на лысину (не забыв после растереть руками) и создала свою собственную Вселенную. Где всё хорошо, идеально и безопасно. А для тех, кто туда не вписывается, у Коргны уже есть даже ответ: м-да такую страшную сказку мы давно уже наблюдаем..
Ziggy Pop: если б сказка, а то ведь быль
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: на Главной повесь, ёпт НУ вот представте закрою седня сайт и форум! завтра вы еще протерпите без форума а потом лока начнеться. Зиг вон даже в "бане" не разу не побывал! он ведь сильно переживать будет!!! Ziggy Pop пишет: наш админ псих=))) Coma пишет: есть такое;)) спасибо!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coma: Zero пишет: завтра вы еще протерпите без форума а потом лока начнеться. звучит заманчиво =)) Zero пишет: Зиг вон даже в "бане" не разу не побывал! а что, остальные уже там были? ) Zero пишет: спасибо!!!!!!!!!!!!!! пожалуйста!!!!!!!!;)
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: даже в "бане" не разу не побывал! я - сама скромность и порядочность;) не чета этим вашим Коргнецам=))
Zero: Coma пишет: а что, остальные уже там были? ) В бане каждый хоть раз жизни да побывал !!! не ужеле ты там не была?)
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: я - сама скромность и порядочность;) я запомню эти слова!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: я запомню эти слова!!!!!!!!!!!!! давай, рви меня на цитаты=)
Zero: Ziggy Pop пишет: давай, рви меня на цитаты=) общество тебя порвет ))))))))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: Zero fuck da society, man=)
Ziggy Pop: Billy Corgan (OFFICIAL) FROM: Lachlan Wall Will you play all 44 songs in concerts after they are released? BC: the idea is to eventually one day do a Teargarden only show when it is all finished. probably on the release of the box set (someday!) концерт из 44 песен, ага, очередное бла-бла-бла. Если они все будут в духе первых двух EP, то кто вообще пойдёт на такое дерьмо, ха-ха
Ziggy Pop: Report: Corgan “contribution” on new album from Runaways singer Billboard’s Gary Graff is reporting, on the basis of an interview with veteran rock drummer Matt Sorum, that Smashing Pumpkins honcho Billy Corgan helped out with a forthcoming record by former Runaways singer Cherie Currie. Sorum is producing the record, which counts his Velvet Revolver/old Guns N’ Roses bandmates Slash and Duff McKagan among its “many guests.” http://www.billboard.com/news/velvet-revolver-courting-new-mystery-singer-1004135135.story#/news/velvet-revolver-courting-new-mystery-singer-1004135135.story http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=151155
Ziggy Pop: Уильям Патрик Корган избавился от фэйсбука, вроде как. Если да, то хвала дъяволу.
Philosopher: Полюбому проплакал три дня подряд потому что его фэны посылали лучше бы он от своей тыквы избавился
Ziggy Pop: да он заколебал своими "признаниями" онлайн, лучше б шёл в студию да нормальные песни писал, а то всё разлюли-малина какая-то: сделал это, сказал то, признался в очередной раз, какие его новые песни чёткие, и прочий бред из Лысой Шизобашки, вёдрами лившийся на головы читателей его страницы. неужели за ум взялся? не верю
Zero: Коргна опять книгу какуюто собрался писать http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2009/12/20/st-martins-press-to-publish-corgans-spiritual-memoir/
Philosopher: больше ни одной его книги не куплю!
Zero: Philosopher пишет: больше ни одной его книги не куплю! а я все десять предыдущих сожгу )))))))))))
Ziggy Pop: Лысый Писёныш решил издать очередные мемуары? oh no, только не это
Andy: Ziggy Pop пишет: oh no, только не это Это почему же? Мне вот интересно.
Zero: Это еще че за х... http://blog.hipstersunited.com/2011/01/15/shaman-encouraged-chamberlin-to-leave-smashing-pumpkins/#comment-30093 раскажите в 2 словах, кто понял! а то я чето наверно не так понял, или это все шутка!
Andy: Джимми заявил, что решение уйти из банды ему помог принять знакомый шаман. Фанаты за такие дела шамана обложили по матушке. И в том комменте, на который ты дал ссылку, шаман объясняет, что так было надо.
Zero: Значит я все правильно понял!!! значит теперь и Джимми ебн*****. Что не новость то ужас просто!
Desire: Спокойней надо к этому относиться. Я уже давно забил на новости и на ожидания вожделенного кайфа от Тыкв. Ну выпустят что-то - послушаю. Сдулся Корган, не он первый, эта участь ожидает большинство старых групп и исполнителей.
Zero: Desire пишет: Спокойней надо к этому относиться. нихера себе спокойней! стараюсь конешно но чтото порой не выходит!!!! вообще какая то ху*** происходит с Тыквами. Одному мозги совсем напроч сорвало! и джимми теперь еще с какимито шаманами треки записывает!!! он опять на наркоту чтоль серьезно подсел!!! это блин пи***** какойто! вобщем у меня в голове не укладывается что случилось с моей любой группой! .......видимо просто распалась она в 2000 году......
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: просто распалась она в 2000 году...... наконец-то ты это понял
Ziggy Pop: скука в общем, а не новости. тоска, а не группа. Чембер тоже ебанулся.
Desire: Мне и 2007 нравится, так что моя планка оценки качества ниже. То, что происходит сейчас, даже в неё не укладывается.
Ziggy Pop: Critics shut ‘Teargarden’ songs out of 2010 Pazz & Jop singles poll None of the 7 songs released last year by the Smashing Pumpkins was mentioned by any of the over 700 music critics who participated in the annual Village Voice Pazz & Jop singles poll. Some 2,086 songs received at least one mention, among them Cee Lo Green’s smash “Fuck You!” (tops with 187 mentions) and a United Parcel Service jingle. The Pumpkins have received a grand total of two mentions over the four “Pazz & Jop” singles polls conducted since the band reformed in 2007, neither coming in the last 3 years.
Ziggy Pop: Kerry Brown: The Smashing Pumpkins are looking for a video artist to collaborate with. The band would like to make a conceptual video for the next Teargarden By Kaleidyscope release. PLEASE NOTE: THERE WILL BE NO BAND MEMBERS IN THE VIDEO. There will be a budget for the production. If you think that you are the person for this job please send your info and a link to your work to sptbkvideo@gmail.com Good Luck, KB
Zero: Чето я уверен найдут какого нить дурня!!! он им наснимет, также как я бы наснял.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: найдут какого нить дурня Zero пишет: он им наснимет Zero пишет: также как я бы наснял хотел было уже продлить данную логическую цепочку, но не буду - врождённая скромность не позволяет
Ziggy Pop: а вообще, все эти так называемые пост-фанатские "танцы" на останках и дымящихся костях Тыкв, почивших в бозе с 2000 года, уже слегка утомляют. Коргна - ты дура.
Zero: работа над песней Zen Baby. http://www.twitvid.com/XXTTC
Philosopher: Работа над песней Fuck Corgan
Zero: Фил ты чтоль написал?)))))) жду видео!!!!!!!!!
Philosopher: да, работа кипит!!!
Zero: *PRIVAT*
Ziggy Pop: Mark Tulin, bassist who worked with Pumpkins, dies in California Mark Tulin, the bassist best known for his work with the Electric Prunes and who played recently in the Smashing Pumpkins, died suddenly yesterday in Avalon, California, at age 62. Tulin was assisting with the annual Avalon Harbor Underwater Cleanup on behalf on the University of Southern California Catalina Hyperbaric Chamber, where he was a supervisor, when he collapsed. According to Chamber program manager Karl Huggins, despite “immediate response by Baywatch Avalon and Avalon Fire Department medics…he could not be revived.” Here is a 2005 interview in which Tulin discusses his career with the Electric Prunes. You can also read through HU’s past reporting on Tulin’s efforts with the Smashing Pumpkins and in several other projects with singer Billy Corgan. R.I.P.
Ziggy Pop: вот и прошла суровая зима ещё одна смерть
Ziggy Pop: Corgan offers a remembrance http://glittercop.blogspot.com/2011/02/mark-tulin-11211948-forever.html
Philosopher: R.I.P. =(
Coma: нет слов. бесконечная чёрная зима.. R. I. P.
Zero: 1 марта твиттер Билли сообщил, что новая песня выйдет приблизительно через 2-3 недели.
Ziggy Pop: Zero пишет: новая песня выйдет приблизительно через 2-3 недели какое счастье, надо же событие года, не меньше!!
Zero: Corgan: “As excited as I’ve been in a long time about these songs upcoming. Only 2 releases this round, not 4. Going to have a long announcement soon (probably a long post from yours truly) about a directional change on Teargarden releases.” Ну Коргана опять понесло! Говорит типа, что в предстоящем релизе будет только 2 песни, а не 4. И типа как то видемо будет пересмотрен процесс релизов Тиргарден песен.
Ziggy Pop: давай, Билли, хуярь по 2 песни теперь, сделай не 11, а 22 EP, а ещё лучше - прикрой уже эту беспонтовую лавочку
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